Yeah the WSJ types don't want to vote for Joe Biden until he is able to get a hold of the people that in unison shout "F*&^ Joe Biden!" ... seems perfectly reasonable
They wonтАЩt vote for ANY democrat. ThatтАЩs why I find it hard to take them seriously anymore. They are never ever objective.
The never trumpers are at least honest. They bitch and complain but we know the stakes. I love the bulwark because of that. My only political pundit complaint is that they never recommend taking positions that are unpopular with their own worldviews but would help Joe revitalize his base. For example I hate loan forgiveness but I see Joe has weakness with his youth base and IтАЩm like тАЬwell I only care if he wins. If these idiot kids need their loan forgiven so that they vote for him then so be it.тАЭ There are a bunch of other issues too. Bill, who I love, is the worst about this. He is still talking about Afghanistan. That was a dead loser position since ObamaтАЩs second term
I stumbled across something a couple of days ago I didn't even know existed: "Politics Chat" by Heather Cox R. The 4/30 edition is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a876Hb6c4F8. It's one of the most educational things I've ever heard.
She covers several topics in depth, but you might be interested in the details she provides of the loan forgiveness stuff, which starts at about 53:50. I too wasn't happy when I first heard about it, but I have a very different opinion now that I understand it. For example, it involves zero tax dollars.
HCR is so incredibly knowledgeable; I wish the Bulwark folks had time to listen to this but I know it's very long. I can't imagine what it's like being her, knowing so much and yet recognizing how little most of us truly understand the issues.
Yeah she is smart and thoughtful. I was just using student loans as an example though. I am supportive of Israel but I think Biden should pivot hard on Israel now to gain support with the youth vote.
In the end I just donтАЩt trust center right politicos that say if тАЬBiden abandons Israel then I have to vote for Trump.тАЭ These voters (pick any issue) are going to vote for Trump anyway. They are just looking for an excuse to do it and blame Biden.
What I don't understand, now that I've heard HCR explain the details, is why anyone is opposed to the banks now having to honor the terms of the student loans - which is what results in the forgiveness. I was initially opposed b/c I had a total misperception about what was being done.
Because explaining means youтАЩre losing. Also, the details donтАЩt matter. To most people, someone is getting a benefit and itтАЩs not them so they donтАЩt like it. Classic human politics
I wont talk about the deficit until republicans talk about a pretty massive increase in taxes.
As Liz Cheney says; " This election is not about policy.It is about democracy".
IтАЩm voting for Biden even if he is in a coffin.
The people on the center right, not so much. Youth maybe not. Progressives maybe not.
I just find it really weird how center right republicans donтАЩt see, in general, that they sound like the progressive youths.
Center right тАЬIтАЩm not sure if I can vote for Biden unless he deals with protesters and gives his full throated support for Israel.тАЭ
Progressive youths: тАЬIтАЩm not sure IтАЩm voting for Biden unless he stops the war in Gaza.тАЭ
Youth have an excuse for being idiots.
Yeah the WSJ types don't want to vote for Joe Biden until he is able to get a hold of the people that in unison shout "F*&^ Joe Biden!" ... seems perfectly reasonable
They wonтАЩt vote for ANY democrat. ThatтАЩs why I find it hard to take them seriously anymore. They are never ever objective.
The never trumpers are at least honest. They bitch and complain but we know the stakes. I love the bulwark because of that. My only political pundit complaint is that they never recommend taking positions that are unpopular with their own worldviews but would help Joe revitalize his base. For example I hate loan forgiveness but I see Joe has weakness with his youth base and IтАЩm like тАЬwell I only care if he wins. If these idiot kids need their loan forgiven so that they vote for him then so be it.тАЭ There are a bunch of other issues too. Bill, who I love, is the worst about this. He is still talking about Afghanistan. That was a dead loser position since ObamaтАЩs second term
I stumbled across something a couple of days ago I didn't even know existed: "Politics Chat" by Heather Cox R. The 4/30 edition is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a876Hb6c4F8. It's one of the most educational things I've ever heard.
She covers several topics in depth, but you might be interested in the details she provides of the loan forgiveness stuff, which starts at about 53:50. I too wasn't happy when I first heard about it, but I have a very different opinion now that I understand it. For example, it involves zero tax dollars.
HCR is so incredibly knowledgeable; I wish the Bulwark folks had time to listen to this but I know it's very long. I can't imagine what it's like being her, knowing so much and yet recognizing how little most of us truly understand the issues.
Yeah she is smart and thoughtful. I was just using student loans as an example though. I am supportive of Israel but I think Biden should pivot hard on Israel now to gain support with the youth vote.
In the end I just donтАЩt trust center right politicos that say if тАЬBiden abandons Israel then I have to vote for Trump.тАЭ These voters (pick any issue) are going to vote for Trump anyway. They are just looking for an excuse to do it and blame Biden.
I agree w/ your last point!
What I don't understand, now that I've heard HCR explain the details, is why anyone is opposed to the banks now having to honor the terms of the student loans - which is what results in the forgiveness. I was initially opposed b/c I had a total misperception about what was being done.
Because explaining means youтАЩre losing. Also, the details donтАЩt matter. To most people, someone is getting a benefit and itтАЩs not them so they donтАЩt like it. Classic human politics
JVL's horse shoe political spectrum at work. Hell, I'll vote for Joe if he is six feet under!
But IтАЩm not talking about the far right. IтАЩm talking about the writers at NRO or wsj or the dispatch. So frustrating.
Yeah, this is about Podhoretz and Douthat. Not Erickson or Barr.