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Sandra B Dombro's avatar

Let's all repeat this together "Bernie Sanders is not now and never has been a member of the Democratic Party."

Not a criticism, just a fact.

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Jerry Fletcher's avatar

The same is true of Liz Cheney and she was featured prominently in Harris campaign stops. Democrats have to decide if they want to be closer aligned to progressives or never-Trump Republicans. I am not sure what the best answer to that choice is from a tactical viewpoint, but I am doubtful that there is a center path between them that generates enough enthusiasm to win elections at scale. Extremes generate more excitement and engagement in modern politics.

I traditionally havenтАЩt been a Bernie guy, but there is something to be said for his decades of experience bashing billionaires and the billionaires running the administration that need to be bashed. Maybe it is time for a populist backlash against billionaires.

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CLS's avatar

Liz Cheney aligned herself with Democrats because of her fear that Trump would be elected. She moved to OUR camp, not vice versa. I am really, really tired of criticism leveled at Dems for 'aligning with Cheney or never-Trumpers' when the REALITY is, these never-Trumpers are trying to save our country and have sacrificed a lot to do so.

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Jerry Fletcher's avatar

I have no problem with her endorsing Democrats and working against Trump. But at the same time, she spent Trump's first term voting with him over 90% of the time and saying "she liked his policies, but not the man." And if she was still in congress, she would still be voting with him 90% of the time. She would be thrilled at a chance to slash Medicaid. (Remember her calling his first impeachment a total sham? At least Kinzinger now regrets that vote. She still thinks Trump trying to blackmail Zelensky into attacking Biden was cool.)

She was an active enabler that helped create him, much like Mitch McConnell. I'm OK accepting her endorsement and putting her in some targeted ads. That's very different than putting her front stage at a swing state rally when you need to mobilize a Democratic base.

If you think Democrats should turn into the Republican-light party, that's a choice. And it might be the right choice for this moment in history, but let's not pretend that won't alienate long term Democrats. I'm old enough to remember the way Reagan handled HIV and the way Dick Cheney got us to invade Iraq. For some us, this has been a long, long fight that didn't just start in 2016 with Trump popping out of nowhere. He is the destination that the GOP and right wing media and Federalist Society wanted and enabled.

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