What are you talking about? All the "libtards" (and why are you using that term?) I know desperately cast their votes, praying that the orange menace would never come near the White House. Please adjust both your attitude and your terminology. Thank you.
Not being a schoolmarm here. You can use the words you want but I think you are smart enough to know there was going to be some blowback. When you co-opt a term used by the brain-dead hard right, the casual reader will likely misunderstand your meaning/intent/target.
I kind of like your pattern of speech, shows intensity. Do sometimes come up blank on the acronyms, though. And the Bulwark is FOR debate or engagement, after all.
I am 71 years old. I have voted Dem in every election since I became eligible. I campaigned for Carl Stokes and was Clean for Gene. I endured the horrors of May 4th from behind my Kent State dorm. I worked as a critical care RN and raised 2 beautiful citizens. I am not a schoolmarm: I am an informed woman who treats others with respect and expects the same.
I'm a few months shy of my 70th birthday, and I'm here to tell you that it's never too late. Hard, maybe, but well worth the effort. Please give it a try.
I thank you for clarifying, but there is a difference between "too late to learn anything new" and "I"m happy the way I am." If the latter is in fact the case, then OK. You do you.
Traditionally I respect people's right to vote as they see fit, as a freedom of choice that we embrace in our system of governance. But I can't extend that same sympathetic perspective to those who in 2016 allowed an irrational personal dislike or hatred for Hillary to outweigh their common sense in choosing Trump instead or sitting out the election. There were so many clear signs that he would be a disaster for this nation and the world. We were warned. The information was there, in plain sight. The MAGA crowd was a lost cause, but so many others should have seen the carnage coming. I often wonder how they sleep at night, especially in those swing states where simply connecting the dots and voting accordingly could have saved us all so much grief and misery, with the potential of still more and worse to come.
People have the right to vote as they see fit, for whatever reason (stupid or not) they have.
And that is part of the problem in electoral representative politics. Many people vote on the basis of identity rather than rationality. They are going to support candidate X not because of policy or plans or character, but because Candidate X has the right letter next to their name.
That's it.
There are other people that vote in predictable patterns (and this is, again, identity-based).
Then there are a few people that actually vote on a basis of rationality.
There is a veneer of thoughtful in many cases, but it is only a veneer. It is people looking for an excuse to vote the way that their "gut" wants them to vote.
Distaste for HC, provided many people with an excuse to vote Trump (or in their distaste for both, not vote or vote for a sure loser). Most of that wasn't really policy based.
Very little voting is--unless you FORCE people to vote on actual policies, themselves (rather than people who "represent" policies).
In rare instances (usually highly emotionally charged) people WILL vote on policy. Abortion is an example of that.
But the policy linkage and outcomes need to be emotionally charged, linked to identity, and seen as immediately affecting the voter.
Bernie quietly endorsed their write in by not giving a full blown endorsement to Hill.
I respected Bernie for giving her a run for her money. I lost all respect when he basically took his ball and went home and enjoyed watching the Bernie Bros as they took out their anger on Clinton and allowed Trump to win. Eff him
What is a libtard?
Ah.
Let's not be confused here: the people to be called to account for Trump winning are trump's voters.
'Libtards'? This is sarcasm, right?
I think that using a slur against mentally disabled people is disgusting.
Maybe this isn't the group for you...
We try to engage in civil discourse. What you're spewing ain't it.
I am offended.
Blame them for what?
Nominating Hillary so he *had* to vote Trump?
If memory serves, Clinton GOT MORE VOTES than TFG.
What are you talking about? All the "libtards" (and why are you using that term?) I know desperately cast their votes, praying that the orange menace would never come near the White House. Please adjust both your attitude and your terminology. Thank you.
He deliberately uses loaded terms. But I think he's talking about the very on-line Left that was talking about "Killary" and the Jill Stein voters.
Not being a schoolmarm here. You can use the words you want but I think you are smart enough to know there was going to be some blowback. When you co-opt a term used by the brain-dead hard right, the casual reader will likely misunderstand your meaning/intent/target.
I understood. Just enjoyed butting in :)
I kind of like your pattern of speech, shows intensity. Do sometimes come up blank on the acronyms, though. And the Bulwark is FOR debate or engagement, after all.
I am 71 years old. I have voted Dem in every election since I became eligible. I campaigned for Carl Stokes and was Clean for Gene. I endured the horrors of May 4th from behind my Kent State dorm. I worked as a critical care RN and raised 2 beautiful citizens. I am not a schoolmarm: I am an informed woman who treats others with respect and expects the same.
"BTW I am not so well veresed". Your proofreading could use some work however, lol.
That's funny.
You just can't help yourself, can you.
I'm a few months shy of my 70th birthday, and I'm here to tell you that it's never too late. Hard, maybe, but well worth the effort. Please give it a try.
I thank you for clarifying, but there is a difference between "too late to learn anything new" and "I"m happy the way I am." If the latter is in fact the case, then OK. You do you.
Sometimes it helps to at least try to read the room, but I guess that depends on what one wants to accomplish.
I blame the people that actually did it.
Traditionally I respect people's right to vote as they see fit, as a freedom of choice that we embrace in our system of governance. But I can't extend that same sympathetic perspective to those who in 2016 allowed an irrational personal dislike or hatred for Hillary to outweigh their common sense in choosing Trump instead or sitting out the election. There were so many clear signs that he would be a disaster for this nation and the world. We were warned. The information was there, in plain sight. The MAGA crowd was a lost cause, but so many others should have seen the carnage coming. I often wonder how they sleep at night, especially in those swing states where simply connecting the dots and voting accordingly could have saved us all so much grief and misery, with the potential of still more and worse to come.
People have the right to vote as they see fit, for whatever reason (stupid or not) they have.
And that is part of the problem in electoral representative politics. Many people vote on the basis of identity rather than rationality. They are going to support candidate X not because of policy or plans or character, but because Candidate X has the right letter next to their name.
That's it.
There are other people that vote in predictable patterns (and this is, again, identity-based).
Then there are a few people that actually vote on a basis of rationality.
There is a veneer of thoughtful in many cases, but it is only a veneer. It is people looking for an excuse to vote the way that their "gut" wants them to vote.
Distaste for HC, provided many people with an excuse to vote Trump (or in their distaste for both, not vote or vote for a sure loser). Most of that wasn't really policy based.
Very little voting is--unless you FORCE people to vote on actual policies, themselves (rather than people who "represent" policies).
In rare instances (usually highly emotionally charged) people WILL vote on policy. Abortion is an example of that.
But the policy linkage and outcomes need to be emotionally charged, linked to identity, and seen as immediately affecting the voter.
This on so many levels ! I still have trouble interacting with people who thought it was a good idea to vote for him in 16.
Bernie quietly endorsed their write in by not giving a full blown endorsement to Hill.
I respected Bernie for giving her a run for her money. I lost all respect when he basically took his ball and went home and enjoyed watching the Bernie Bros as they took out their anger on Clinton and allowed Trump to win. Eff him
My understanding/perception of the thing is somewhat different.