I think that the plan Arafat rejected would have been a start, but it doesn't matter what either of us think about it now: he rejected it, it's dead, and it's not recoverable.
I think that once Hamas is eliminated, there may be political will to force the sides to a two-state solution. From everything I've read, any frustration we feel wi…
I think that the plan Arafat rejected would have been a start, but it doesn't matter what either of us think about it now: he rejected it, it's dead, and it's not recoverable.
I think that once Hamas is eliminated, there may be political will to force the sides to a two-state solution. From everything I've read, any frustration we feel with the Israelis is as nothing compared to the frustration that the Arab states feel with the Palestinians. Any such plan would require massive investments from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States to stand Palestine up so that it can succeed economically. Once the Palestinians have jobs and a lifestyle that they can enjoy, they might have second -- and third, and fourth -- thoughts about throwing it all away.
Palestine would have to be demilitarized, but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't have an effective police force and defensive weapons, just nothing that they could throw over the border. In that, they would be no different from Costa Rica or Iceland, which also have no military. They could have defense guarantees from Saudi Arabia and Jordan, but probably wouldn't need them: if most Israelis could just forget that the Palestinians were there, I think that they'd be content to live back to back, walled off from each other with both open to the rest of the world. Transit between Gaza and the West Bank could be handled the way that transit between West Germany and West Berlin was handled from 1949 to the end of the Cold War.
At any rate, once Hamas is eliminated, the Israelis must be forced to roll back the West Bank settlements, which were illegal from the jump and never should have been permitted in the first place, someone besides the Israelis should be responsible for keeping Gaza and the West Bank peaceful, and as I've said, the Gulf should take the lead in rebuilding the West Bank and Gaza and making them economically viable.
Wrong on Arab states. The monarchs hate Hamas. Their people love the Palestinians. The countries closest to Israel are pissed at Israel. Saudi foreign minister called it a genocide last week.
The Palestinians are already demilitarized and look what happened.
I’m glad you have hope. I wish I did but I don’t. Israel doesn’t want a state. Palestinians are getting stepped on everyday and their hate grows which leads to violence. Rinse and repeat.
I just want everybody there to be able to live their lives in peace and prosperity and be able, like people everywhere else, to hope to leave a better life to their children. I think that the only way to accomplish that is to separate them. Maybe not forever, but probably until most of the people still alive on both sides have been gathered to their fathers and mothers, and the people then living can't understand what all the hatred was about.
I think that the plan Arafat rejected would have been a start, but it doesn't matter what either of us think about it now: he rejected it, it's dead, and it's not recoverable.
I think that once Hamas is eliminated, there may be political will to force the sides to a two-state solution. From everything I've read, any frustration we feel with the Israelis is as nothing compared to the frustration that the Arab states feel with the Palestinians. Any such plan would require massive investments from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States to stand Palestine up so that it can succeed economically. Once the Palestinians have jobs and a lifestyle that they can enjoy, they might have second -- and third, and fourth -- thoughts about throwing it all away.
Palestine would have to be demilitarized, but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't have an effective police force and defensive weapons, just nothing that they could throw over the border. In that, they would be no different from Costa Rica or Iceland, which also have no military. They could have defense guarantees from Saudi Arabia and Jordan, but probably wouldn't need them: if most Israelis could just forget that the Palestinians were there, I think that they'd be content to live back to back, walled off from each other with both open to the rest of the world. Transit between Gaza and the West Bank could be handled the way that transit between West Germany and West Berlin was handled from 1949 to the end of the Cold War.
At any rate, once Hamas is eliminated, the Israelis must be forced to roll back the West Bank settlements, which were illegal from the jump and never should have been permitted in the first place, someone besides the Israelis should be responsible for keeping Gaza and the West Bank peaceful, and as I've said, the Gulf should take the lead in rebuilding the West Bank and Gaza and making them economically viable.
Agree on Arafat.
Wrong on Arab states. The monarchs hate Hamas. Their people love the Palestinians. The countries closest to Israel are pissed at Israel. Saudi foreign minister called it a genocide last week.
The Palestinians are already demilitarized and look what happened.
I’m glad you have hope. I wish I did but I don’t. Israel doesn’t want a state. Palestinians are getting stepped on everyday and their hate grows which leads to violence. Rinse and repeat.
I just want everybody there to be able to live their lives in peace and prosperity and be able, like people everywhere else, to hope to leave a better life to their children. I think that the only way to accomplish that is to separate them. Maybe not forever, but probably until most of the people still alive on both sides have been gathered to their fathers and mothers, and the people then living can't understand what all the hatred was about.
Completely agree. I just don’t see a way to get there. Maybe after this tragedy it drives home that a solution has to be found. We can hope I guess