Even if it wasn’t their fault originally (nice try…) it’s their fault now that it’s going up and not down. You can’t go on blaming your predecessor/s when you are now in charge and it’s getting worse not better.
The state legislature here in OR has been working on laws that force tech companies to pay for the increases in KWH prices to offset costs to the rest of us. Hopefully that keeps the AI bros out.
Look at the situation in Purple GA. Southern power had 7 rate increases in the last two years raising prices over 40%. That’s not because gas prices have gone up….
Really surprised the no one mentioned that the GOP destroyed manufacturing of solar and wind power equipment years ago, so now most solar panels and wind turbines are imported (and likely subject to Trump Tariffs).
ECON 101 taught me that when supply goes down and demand goes up, prices go up, and fast. Why this is beyond the capacity (heh) of 100% of Republicans is beyond me.
The situation in Texas is ironic. After the IRA was enacted, solar, wind, and batteries took off. Texas has now surpassed California in wind & solar. The much maligned ERCOT has been more stable than ever. The removal of the subsidies for renewable energy will put all of that at risk, as data centers, and increased population are also a part of the Texas landscape. Doug Lewin is a Texas expert on the local grid. He would make a great guest. My husband and I are so glad we got solar & batteries in '22. The decision seems especially prescient now...
We're in Houston. Got our panels & batteries after the winter freeze outage in '21. Our bills have been reduced by probably 2/3, AND they saved our bacon after Hurricane Beryl when our neighborhood was w/o power for 7 days. We are so glad we got them we we did, & are so disappointed that the nation will now go backwards in its attempt to combat the effects of climate change.
Oh, trust me. I live in the middle of one of the fastest growing data centers in the country. There are hundreds of huge buildings just full of machines processing data that weren’t here 2 years ago.
Solar, wind would help. Storage would help too. Permitting reform would help. Nuclear would help. So many places for what once would have been bipartisan. In fact, the left gets in the way of some of this as much as the right. It should not be partisan. It’s like COVID and vaccines. It’s f-ing crazy that science is now a polarized political issue.
It isn't the Left's fault these are partisan issues. The GOP has had a huge contingent of climate deniers for a really long time. Those same folks hate renewables as "green commie tash", especially the "ugly" wind farms. Just throwing away all the scientific advancements that built our way of life.
I absolutely agree that the vast majority of the problem since 2009 or 2010 has definitely been the fossil fuel funded GOP. And, yes, renewables themselves are wholly supported by the left. But the left does tend to ignore, at best, the other things we absolutely need in order to decarbonize. .
Food Water Watch actively opposed carbon pricing. Other groups remained tepid at best. Land conservation groups regularly oppose transmission. Nuclear has absolutely been slowed by left opposition.
Heck, in my own Indivisible group, if I say the word “nuclear,” you can suddenly hear a pin drop. Or someone says “I spent my life fighting nuclear.” These are folks who also support lgbtq rights, abortion rights, have BLM banners at their homes.
I will say that the IRA, along with BIL and CHIPs, was a huge step forward. That was Dems. 100%. And in that, we saw the full fruition of the GOP’s failure on this, the one that began in earnest with Norquist’s pledge to oppose carbon taxes onto which the vast majority of GOPs signed.
Just a year before that, both the GOP and Dem candidates for POTUS ran on a platform that included a carbon tax.
That would have been a bipartisan way to support solar and wind, as well as transmission and nuclear. And anything that would have reduced emissions.
Just changed plans in May - the price doubled this summer yet usage is the same & the price per kwh was not much higher with a new plan. Huge tax in Tx on energy & it is going to be worse in Aug. Anyone who will change plans will notice soon.
If you’d like the inside baseball details on how Michigan totally screwed itself with tax breaks for data centers hit me up. It was incredibly ugly and the legacy of the dem actions on this one are … not helping going into 2026.
I think the tax breaks by cities for large projects is frequently a short sighted deal to gain political backing and provide profit for a handful while not doing much in terms of promises to the cities.
Even if it wasn’t their fault originally (nice try…) it’s their fault now that it’s going up and not down. You can’t go on blaming your predecessor/s when you are now in charge and it’s getting worse not better.
The state legislature here in OR has been working on laws that force tech companies to pay for the increases in KWH prices to offset costs to the rest of us. Hopefully that keeps the AI bros out.
Just one point. In addition to solar being quickly deployable it is now the absolute cheapest source of power available, bar none
Look at the situation in Purple GA. Southern power had 7 rate increases in the last two years raising prices over 40%. That’s not because gas prices have gone up….
Really surprised the no one mentioned that the GOP destroyed manufacturing of solar and wind power equipment years ago, so now most solar panels and wind turbines are imported (and likely subject to Trump Tariffs).
And it seems like every few days, the Trump regime is announcing new regulatory barriers to renewable energy construction. https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/20/trump-says-us-will-not-approve-solar-or-wind-power-projects.html
ECON 101 taught me that when supply goes down and demand goes up, prices go up, and fast. Why this is beyond the capacity (heh) of 100% of Republicans is beyond me.
The situation in Texas is ironic. After the IRA was enacted, solar, wind, and batteries took off. Texas has now surpassed California in wind & solar. The much maligned ERCOT has been more stable than ever. The removal of the subsidies for renewable energy will put all of that at risk, as data centers, and increased population are also a part of the Texas landscape. Doug Lewin is a Texas expert on the local grid. He would make a great guest. My husband and I are so glad we got solar & batteries in '22. The decision seems especially prescient now...
I live in central NY
my last three National Grid payments have gone up significantly this Spring- Summer
$182., $256., $325.
Yes we barely squeaked in our solar install before the incentives go away in 2026...
There is so much that is going to bite everyone in the ass as all the incentives go away and tarrifs continue... The economy will not do well.
We're in Houston. Got our panels & batteries after the winter freeze outage in '21. Our bills have been reduced by probably 2/3, AND they saved our bacon after Hurricane Beryl when our neighborhood was w/o power for 7 days. We are so glad we got them we we did, & are so disappointed that the nation will now go backwards in its attempt to combat the effects of climate change.
Oh, trust me. I live in the middle of one of the fastest growing data centers in the country. There are hundreds of huge buildings just full of machines processing data that weren’t here 2 years ago.
Oh. Many of us not only expected this self inflicted catastrophe. We warned about it. Loudly. But clearly into the abyss we now all find ourselves in.
We also notice it.
And soon it’s gonna be overwhelmingly obvious even to those who actively 1) looked away and 2) disputed it.
Solar, wind would help. Storage would help too. Permitting reform would help. Nuclear would help. So many places for what once would have been bipartisan. In fact, the left gets in the way of some of this as much as the right. It should not be partisan. It’s like COVID and vaccines. It’s f-ing crazy that science is now a polarized political issue.
It isn't the Left's fault these are partisan issues. The GOP has had a huge contingent of climate deniers for a really long time. Those same folks hate renewables as "green commie tash", especially the "ugly" wind farms. Just throwing away all the scientific advancements that built our way of life.
I absolutely agree that the vast majority of the problem since 2009 or 2010 has definitely been the fossil fuel funded GOP. And, yes, renewables themselves are wholly supported by the left. But the left does tend to ignore, at best, the other things we absolutely need in order to decarbonize. .
Food Water Watch actively opposed carbon pricing. Other groups remained tepid at best. Land conservation groups regularly oppose transmission. Nuclear has absolutely been slowed by left opposition.
Heck, in my own Indivisible group, if I say the word “nuclear,” you can suddenly hear a pin drop. Or someone says “I spent my life fighting nuclear.” These are folks who also support lgbtq rights, abortion rights, have BLM banners at their homes.
I will say that the IRA, along with BIL and CHIPs, was a huge step forward. That was Dems. 100%. And in that, we saw the full fruition of the GOP’s failure on this, the one that began in earnest with Norquist’s pledge to oppose carbon taxes onto which the vast majority of GOPs signed.
Just a year before that, both the GOP and Dem candidates for POTUS ran on a platform that included a carbon tax.
That would have been a bipartisan way to support solar and wind, as well as transmission and nuclear. And anything that would have reduced emissions.
Where are I did that stickers for Trump
Just changed plans in May - the price doubled this summer yet usage is the same & the price per kwh was not much higher with a new plan. Huge tax in Tx on energy & it is going to be worse in Aug. Anyone who will change plans will notice soon.
ANd, they didn't get the Epstein files either
If you’d like the inside baseball details on how Michigan totally screwed itself with tax breaks for data centers hit me up. It was incredibly ugly and the legacy of the dem actions on this one are … not helping going into 2026.
I think the tax breaks by cities for large projects is frequently a short sighted deal to gain political backing and provide profit for a handful while not doing much in terms of promises to the cities.