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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

If the surveillance tapes, financial trails, and hard drives had belonged to anyone but the rich and connected, we’d have seen a Netflix doc, six indictments, and a congressional hearing by now.

But when the predator knows your secrets, it’s amazing how fast justice forgets how to spell “subpoena.”

The silence isn’t a mystery. It’s a message.

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Kentuckistan's avatar

It would be like the Grateful Dead, after 25 years came out and said they were lip syncing and Jerry Garcia was playing air guitar the whole time. You're gonna have some pissed off Dead Heads

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Heather Schlessman's avatar

The answer to any question is always “follow the money”.

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Shantha Smith's avatar

I think he absolutely could have made money as a high-end pimp / child sex trafficker. There are very rich people worldwide who have no problem parting with crazy money for bespoke entertainment.

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JamesPalmer's avatar

I posted it on another Epstein video, but it seems like to me the real juice is in the client list--and I don't mean the non-existent list of johns, but his investors. Who invested with him, and why?

Check out this thread from X user Quantian1. This seems to me like the most likely explanation.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html

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DonnaD's avatar

Why didn't Ghislaine Maxwell flip? Perhaps because she wants to remain alive, even if it's in jail. She has all the answers.

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Janet's avatar

Why on earth would anyone believe anything released by this Administration? The current delay is caused by the time they need to manufacture evidence for their own narrative.

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Beth Hogan's avatar

I agree, follow the money - someone I know said the same thing and then wondered if Epstein was a foreign gov asset. The big thing is the money

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Michael Milligan's avatar

Hey guys, what's up with the long commercial inserted smack dab into the 12minute article? This is NFG, especially since I've already subscribed to the Bulwark! I'll be a former subscriber if you continue this practice!

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DonnaD's avatar

I've never had a commercial in any Bulwark podcast. I watch almost all of them via the website, but sometimes directly on substack, or youtube. What platform do you use to watch? Maybe that does not recognize you as a subscriber and there is a way to log in to your account? In any event, this problem is not resolved with a comment here. You would have received an email from The Bulwark after subscribing which contains lots of useful information, one of those being how to contact them: members@thebulwark.com

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Ben Takis's avatar

Anyone here remember there was a lawsuit filed by a woman in 2016 with direct allegations involving both Trump and Epstein? This lawsuit was filed and then dropped, then refiled 4 months later and mysteriously dropped again! Google Trump, Epstein, and Katie Johnson. I had completely forgotten about this until I saw people mention it this weekend.

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ABT's avatar
Jul 16Edited

Even if everything were released, there is now no way to believe any of it. They’ve had too much time to tamper with evidence. They lie about absolutely everything. They are all about destruction.

They could plant people’s names in real or manufactured “Epstein files” and destroy them publicly or use threats as leverage. This essentially has to be dropped because of all the corruption and damage they can and will cause to people who will never be able to prove their innocence. They’ve muddied everything so thoroughly that there will never be justice for these survivors.

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Robert J Danolfo's avatar

Tim, Thanks for the additional information on this affair. Yes, the money.is always a great place to start but with my limited knowledge may I suggest another idea. Every AG and Director of the FBI since 2005 had to make the ultimate decisions on if the investigations warranted charges and if prosecutions would be executed. Don't these decisions have to be a matter of record? Can these individuals be compelled to Congress for questioning? I would really like to know if any of this ever reached the oval office for consideration.

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RM Cavallo's avatar

Again with ads in the paid subscriber feed. Do better, Bulwark.

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Elizabeth Mills's avatar

Reporting should also make a point to identify that Virginia Giuffre was recruited while working at Trump's Mar-a-lago

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Ann P's avatar

Oh good grief, all the information you could ever want to know about this is contained in Epstein’s Wikipedia article, including how he earned all that money (for example, at one point he was earning the today equivalent of $69,000/mo working for Steven Hoffenberg as a consultant for Towers Financial Corporation). He was also a limited partner at Bear Stearns but got out before they collapsed in 2008 (in 2007 he was being investigated by Alex Acosta for sex trafficking, but Acosta was told by the WH to go easy on him because he was a Mossad agent, or at least Acosta said this was the implication of what was said to him). The exact origin of Epstein's wealth is unknown. Leslie Wexner was one source of Epstein's original wealth. An assistant of Epstein also stated that he got his fortune started through Robert Maxwell, the media mogul father of Ghislaine Maxwell.

While it was claimed that Epstein was a billionaire, his estimated net worth when he died was closer to $500 million. This is the link for the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Wealth.

There are 372 footnotes, links to all the Julie Brown articles for the Miami Herald, and links for the 7 books written about him. There are even external links to both of Epstein’s “little black books”, various flight logs, FBI files, his 2007 non-prosecution agreement, and his federal indictment. There are tons of names, places and dates, information about the hidden cameras, the autopsy, the private autopsy, etc. I’m not sure how much more could be revealed to the public that isn’t contained in the Wikipedia article. Maybe the actual photographs and videos. The “little black books” are redacted, but only to hide addresses and phone numbers; all the names are there. Happy reading into the rabbit hole.

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