Tim Miller explains exactly what’s likely still hidden in the so-called Epstein files: the computers, surveillance tapes, heavily redacted FBI records, mysterious finances, and unanswered questions from Epstein’s death.
Why is so much still secret? Who benefits from keeping it that way?
This analysis draws heavily from Julie K. Brown’s groundbreaking reporting at the Miami Herald. Check out her work for more in-depth coverage of the Epstein investigation: https://www.miamiherald.com/profile/218644665
Further Reference:
The Epstein files: What is public, and what is still secret? (Julie K. Brown)
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If the surveillance tapes, financial trails, and hard drives had belonged to anyone but the rich and connected, we’d have seen a Netflix doc, six indictments, and a congressional hearing by now.
But when the predator knows your secrets, it’s amazing how fast justice forgets how to spell “subpoena.”
The silence isn’t a mystery. It’s a message.
It would be like the Grateful Dead, after 25 years came out and said they were lip syncing and Jerry Garcia was playing air guitar the whole time. You're gonna have some pissed off Dead Heads
Trump just said that it’s all hoax
https://open.substack.com/pub/deanblundell/p/video-trump-just-called-the-epstein?r=eit6y&utm_medium=ios
The answer to any question is always “follow the money”.
I think he absolutely could have made money as a high-end pimp / child sex trafficker. There are very rich people worldwide who have no problem parting with crazy money for bespoke entertainment.
I posted it on another Epstein video, but it seems like to me the real juice is in the client list--and I don't mean the non-existent list of johns, but his investors. Who invested with him, and why?
Check out this thread from X user Quantian1. This seems to me like the most likely explanation.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html
Why didn't Ghislaine Maxwell flip? Perhaps because she wants to remain alive, even if it's in jail. She has all the answers.
Why on earth would anyone believe anything released by this Administration? The current delay is caused by the time they need to manufacture evidence for their own narrative.
I agree, follow the money - someone I know said the same thing and then wondered if Epstein was a foreign gov asset. The big thing is the money
Hey guys, what's up with the long commercial inserted smack dab into the 12minute article? This is NFG, especially since I've already subscribed to the Bulwark! I'll be a former subscriber if you continue this practice!
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Anyone here remember there was a lawsuit filed by a woman in 2016 with direct allegations involving both Trump and Epstein? This lawsuit was filed and then dropped, then refiled 4 months later and mysteriously dropped again! Google Trump, Epstein, and Katie Johnson. I had completely forgotten about this until I saw people mention it this weekend.
Even if everything were released, there is now no way to believe any of it. They’ve had too much time to tamper with evidence. They lie about absolutely everything. They are all about destruction.
They could plant people’s names in real or manufactured “Epstein files” and destroy them publicly or use threats as leverage. This essentially has to be dropped because of all the corruption and damage they can and will cause to people who will never be able to prove their innocence. They’ve muddied everything so thoroughly that there will never be justice for these survivors.
Tim, Thanks for the additional information on this affair. Yes, the money.is always a great place to start but with my limited knowledge may I suggest another idea. Every AG and Director of the FBI since 2005 had to make the ultimate decisions on if the investigations warranted charges and if prosecutions would be executed. Don't these decisions have to be a matter of record? Can these individuals be compelled to Congress for questioning? I would really like to know if any of this ever reached the oval office for consideration.
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Reporting should also make a point to identify that Virginia Giuffre was recruited while working at Trump's Mar-a-lago
Oh good grief, all the information you could ever want to know about this is contained in Epstein’s Wikipedia article, including how he earned all that money (for example, at one point he was earning the today equivalent of $69,000/mo working for Steven Hoffenberg as a consultant for Towers Financial Corporation). He was also a limited partner at Bear Stearns but got out before they collapsed in 2008 (in 2007 he was being investigated by Alex Acosta for sex trafficking, but Acosta was told by the WH to go easy on him because he was a Mossad agent, or at least Acosta said this was the implication of what was said to him). The exact origin of Epstein's wealth is unknown. Leslie Wexner was one source of Epstein's original wealth. An assistant of Epstein also stated that he got his fortune started through Robert Maxwell, the media mogul father of Ghislaine Maxwell.
While it was claimed that Epstein was a billionaire, his estimated net worth when he died was closer to $500 million. This is the link for the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Wealth.
There are 372 footnotes, links to all the Julie Brown articles for the Miami Herald, and links for the 7 books written about him. There are even external links to both of Epstein’s “little black books”, various flight logs, FBI files, his 2007 non-prosecution agreement, and his federal indictment. There are tons of names, places and dates, information about the hidden cameras, the autopsy, the private autopsy, etc. I’m not sure how much more could be revealed to the public that isn’t contained in the Wikipedia article. Maybe the actual photographs and videos. The “little black books” are redacted, but only to hide addresses and phone numbers; all the names are there. Happy reading into the rabbit hole.
Where did Epstein get his money? Retired US counterintelligence officer Robert Schindler says it looks like he was working for foreign intelligence services - most likely Mossad, but also perhaps the FSB:
https://topsecretumbra.substack.com/p/exclusive-your-guide-to-epstein-and
Go talk to Lex Wexner about where the monster got his money
Thanks Tim! Yes, someone needs to follow the money! Trump is trying to protect himself and his rich pedo friends! Where’s Michael Moore? 😂
Yes, follow the money. Julie Brown could consider sharing notes with Suzanne Craig and Russ Beuttner, the New York Times team that researched and published "Lucky Loser" about Donald Trump's financial history.
I’m a paid subscriber why did I get an ad(SamStein)
Les Wexner Victoria secret $$
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Thank you!
Me too. Sam hawking cannabis gummies or something. Truly annoying.
Saw the same thing. Caught it once before on another Bullwark interview.
This is not a conspiracy, it is a factual system of events. Don’t trust Bondi to give us jack-shit. Don’t expect anyone to give us anything. This will unfold by digging into every crevice, by anyone with expertise in software enterprise. Somewhere, at some time, the truths will be known, until then, expect each and everyone of us, ‘nobody’s,’ to be played as fools.
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Yes, absolutely follow the money; and also follow the many, many people who must be involved but who, as you’ve already said on other podcasts (the one with Julie K Brown/Bill Kristol but mentioned on others), have not even been interrogated as far as we know, never mind prosecuted? There’s a video out there on Substack by someone called “Katie” describing how, at aged 13, she was raped by Trump at a Jeffrey Epstein party. Is this true? Why hasn’t it been investigated (or has it?) to prove whether or not it is? And why hasn’t “Tiffany”, spoken of by “Katie” as the person who got her into these truly terrible situations, ever been investigated? Or has she, and I’m just unaware? “Katie”s story is so harrowing that you’’d think at very least it would have been investigated. Has it?
Julie K. Brown answers the Katie questions you’ve asked in the 2024 interview with Tim. (Link in the show notes.)
Thanks, ABT, yes, I checked it out.
I agree there's probably not a "LIST" that Epstein himself kept written down. But there must be FBI reports and summaries of all the investigations. Epstein's contact lists, friends, business associates, etc., lists of everyone who was known to be in his homes and on the island, lists of people he had financial transactions with, etc. All compiled by the FBI.
When Pam Bondi released the "binder" people were upset because it was all information that had been public for years. Was this information the government previously released directly to the public or was it the result of reporting by journalists? I haven't followed the case closely enough to know what was public.
Tim, it would be great if you could do a second video of what we DO KNOW. Not every specific detail, but just categories of what kind of stuff is out there in public, and how it became public. (Aside from Julie Brown's book.) My guess is that the public knows less than 5% of what's in the FBI files.....but that's just a guess.
Watch the very recent Bill Krystal podcast (done last week when Tim was on vacation) with Julie Brown. Why would Tim know anything more than what Julie Brown knows and is already out there in the public domain?
Jim Acosta interviewed his brother, Marc, yesterday. He had some interesting comments about the autopsy and said his brother had something on Trump. I found some transcripts months ago I downloaded that documented testimony from one of the victims. What I read was revolting. She accused Trump and Epstein of despicable acts with her and another underage girl.
why am I getting an ad all of a sudden?? It still says “subscribed” (which I do), and I can still comment, so I can’t be in the wrong place??
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Tim Miller thanks for that bet fine summary. I liked your question on where did the pedo get his money
I’m sure you folks who don’t catch this thru Substack didn’t realize there are regularly commercials. This is not bad Sam.
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Mother Jones has a very long piece from 2020, where a reporter found a phone log on the dark web, before it was taken down. The reporter called almost 2,000 phone numbers and he gained some insights on the money trail. Pretty much one guy, whose finances he gained control of.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/i-called-everyone-in-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book/
Is Prince Andrew the only "client" to have paid some price for his abuse of Victoria Giuffre and likely others? It pisses me off immensely that Trump dares to say that no-one is interested in Jeffrey Epstein. Clearly he has no care for the many young girls that were (and continue to be) harmed. Vile waste of space.
Bulwark+ add-free? I get that I can ff through it but 2 minutes, even for a Sam fan, is a bit much.
Agree--WTF! Ads for hemp gummies! To me this ad hit at the creditability of everything the Bulwarkis trying to do. Huge mistake and also I'm not paying for ads when I subscribe to Bulwark+, am I?
So Epstein died in Federal Prison while Trump was President?...enquiring minds want to know who would have motive and opportunity
So Ghislain Maxwell is sitting in prison, ready to share what she knows....why is she not coming forward? Is she afraid? Who would extend protection if she wants to come forward?
What was that on the substack app Sam hawking gummies? right in the middle of this.
Indeed! WTF?
This was the version they meant to put on Youtube, with the ad added. It happens on occasion that we the subscribers get the wrong version.
It was weird, is all. Like suddenly being in the real world.
NB: I listened to this in Apple Podcasts via my subscriber private feed… and heard Sam hawking gummies!
Love Sam hate commercials why I subscribe and pay for the feed
A say we all.
I saw this over on YouTube and have a question. Is Sam giving penance for interrupting? He seems really contrite in his soul gummy ad read. I like Sam and am also an interrupter. He just seems a sad Sam peddling soul gummies.
Yes, Tim. You have nailed it. As always, follow the money. That is where the truth lies. First, he was undoubetdly paid handsomely for the "encounters". I'm sorry for how disgusting this sounds, but this is very likely the transaction reality here. Followed by blackmail. Is there some other reason there were video cameras in the houses and rooms? Copious logs and records kept in safes? We know people like Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton were passengers on Epstein's plane per flight logs. Along with- wait for it- Donald Trump.
This is a lengthy sordid episode of criminality. Which was again and again minimized and suppressed. My bet is that Trump will manage to keep it suppressed. And force down any lasting political damage to himself and damage to any he wishes to shield. But questions will remain indefinitely. JFK conspiracy like, IMO.
I watched the documentary about Epstein on Netflix and I didn’t understand how he made so much money either.
Those properties, that lifestyle = huge bucks. It had to be an 'information collecting' caper, and government (whose?) sponsored, not private. Way beyond Les Wexner's ability to finance ... and why would he? There surely exists dirt on important folks from all over the globe somewhere in this buried pile of cacadoodle! I hope MAGA folks keep their shovels poised and keep digging.
This is from a comment above: "Oh good grief, all the information you could ever want to know about this is contained in Epstein’s Wikipedia article, including how he earned all that money (for example, at one point he was earning the today equivalent of $69,000/mo working for Steven Hoffenberg as a consultant for Towers Financial Corporation). He was also a limited partner at Bear Stearns but got out before they collapsed in 2008 (in 2007 he was being investigated by Alex Acosta for sex trafficking, but Acosta was told by the WH to go easy on him because he was a Mossad agent, or at least Acosta said this was the implication of what was said to him). The exact origin of Epstein's wealth is unknown. Leslie Wexner was one source of Epstein's original wealth. An assistant of Epstein also stated that he got his fortune started through Robert Maxwell, the media mogul father of Ghislaine Maxwell.
While it was claimed that Epstein was a billionaire, his estimated net worth when he died was closer to $500 million. This is the link for the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Wealth.
There are 372 footnotes, links to all the Julie Brown articles for the Miami Herald, and links for the 7 books written about him. There are even external links to both of Epstein’s “little black books”, various flight logs, FBI files, his 2007 non-prosecution agreement, and his federal indictment. There are tons of names, places and dates, information about the hidden cameras, the autopsy, the private autopsy, etc. I’m not sure how much more could be revealed to the public that isn’t contained in the Wikipedia article. Maybe the actual photographs and videos. The “little black books” are redacted, but only to hide addresses and phone numbers; all the names are there. Happy reading into the rabbit hole."
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This was very helpful.
Thanks for the summary, very informative and well done. BUT a commercial? Seriously??? Do I really need to see Sam, or anyone, pushing a non-alcoholic drink (or anything for that matter?) My answer is no - particularly as a paid subscriber. Thanks for listening to my mini rant
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Yeah. I pay so I don’t have to see that shit
Make Bondi swing a deal with a Pardon for Giselle Maxwell, and a total blowout exposer of the whole Epstein Saga
He was also an alleged spy for Israel. Maybe that’s the $$ trail ?
Has the DOJ fired the investigators who were working on this case? They may have the best job security of all. As long as they are employed by the federal gov't they can't talk about the case.
Wow. Really? That would indeed be job security but also perhaps other types of 'security' not so much ...
Thanks for the summary. It called to mind the fact that Mueller declined to "follow the money" during his special investigation of Trump.
Thanks, Tim. Wonderfully informative & brilliantly organized to help us home in on what’s MISSING! Quite a bit it would seem …
If you haven’t listened to it, find Don Lemon interviewing Epstein’s brother. Fascinating next of kin perspective on the procedure and overarching information sharing. Just feels like sunlight would be the best disinfectant here.
Jim Acosta had an interview with the brother today as well. Definitely raised a lot of questions.
https://jimacosta.substack.com/p/the-latest-on-epstein-gate-with-jeffrey?r=1ibb7&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=audio-player
The solution to the Epstein mystery is, as it is with so many things today, well within the purview of AI.
Why don't we assign Grok the job of taking those heavily redacted files and doing its thing to fill in all the words that are blacked out?
It would make really interesting reading ... or not!
Why would anyone believe an Epstein list provided by this administration anyway? The list will contain the same Dems they like to demonize and there won’t be a single R on it.
My thoughts on Epstein and Trump...Epstein made his money providing trafficked kids to rich people, filmed them and then blackmailed them. Trump loved the excitement of it all and was probably more excited about the blackmailing portion. Trump rode in Epstein's plane after he died. Maybe he was getting hidden files stored in the plane. Yes, this could all be a conspiracy theory or not.
Wikipedia contains more accurate information on how Epstein made his money.
I agree with Tim < deep Throat and Martha Mitchell . Follow the money
Trump will appoint a special council. Re open the Maxwell case. Get her to say he was not on any list. Then he will pardon her.
oh, what a horrible thought - don’t let’s anyone give him that idea, it sounds all too plausible a scenario.
Bondi said her team was going over thousands of hours of tapes that were of abuse of young victims - the violators need to be made know !!!!
If there is anything to his Wikipedia page, his financial rise started with managing money for wealthy men-likely laundering money for them perhaps. But he seems to have been a whiz with numbers and investments. The man who owned the company that owned Victoria Secrets was where he seems to have started after leaving Bear Stearns.
3 minutes of the final jail Epstein video have been cut, per the forensic analysis story in Wired today.