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Frau Katze's avatar

Go look at a photo of Khelif. That’s one muscular looking woman. And no, there’s no proof because Khelif refused genetic testing. Why would that be, I wonder? Something to hide?

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No Sympathy, No Charity's avatar

This is like saying Ronda Rousey is a man because she has a well defined musculature.

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Lily who reads The Bulwark's avatar

So now we are policing how women are supposed to look? Yikes.

There is no proof for the same reason there is no proof of gender for any other boxing athlete: it’s none of your business, and she isn’t obligated to meet your approval. The IOC has stated she met the criteria for participation.

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Frau Katze's avatar

The Olympics allows specific sports to handle this issue. For swimming, Lia Thomas was not allowed to compete in the female category. Boxing had different rules.

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Siena Popiel's avatar

You should look these things up before you post ignorant comments. The IOC requires that boxers passports be marked as 'Female'. Algeria isn't exactly in the practice of changing passports.

She was obviously born female...and yet here you are trying to claim that she's a case of trans women in sports.

Which should tell every reasonable person everything they need to know about the issue.

(Side note: Lia Thomas' personal best isn't even close to a qualifying time for the Olympics, again, which kind of shows that even in this case, trans women don't have any particular advantage over cis women...SMH)

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Lily who reads The Bulwark's avatar

And? She was still eligible.

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Frau Katze's avatar

Boxing was less fussy, going by passport only.

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Lily who reads The Bulwark's avatar

Okay. She’s still eligible. So there is no need to get tested just to satisfy you. I wouldn’t do the test either.

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Frau Katze's avatar

It’s not just me. There are huge numbers of women who agree with me.

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Lily who reads The Bulwark's avatar

There are and always have been huge amounts of people who believe all kinds of things that are wrong. Just listen to any of the focus groups podcasts. Truth and reality are not a popularity contest.

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Frau Katze's avatar

Or read your misguided comments.

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Siena Popiel's avatar

Do you not know muscular women? Try going to a gym where women box...every single one of them looks like Khelif.

But that goes to the heart of the anti-trans argument: The same assumptions you are making about a persons most private information are base entirely on you not thinking she looks 'feminine' enough.

She's also lost dozens of bouts. So even if she was trans (she's not) then she doesn't appear to have any meaningful advantage over her competition that regularly beats her.

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Frau Katze's avatar

All she had to do was submit genetic test results. She would not do it, suggesting she knows she’s not XX.

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Siena Popiel's avatar

She DID submit to a chromosomal test & was disqualified from the Russian controlled IBA but it's unclear why. No wonder she chose not to submit to additional tests...but its interesting that you are on here spouting Russian propaganda...It makes one wonder.

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Frau Katze's avatar

Take a hike.

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Leah's avatar

you have absolutely no proof that she does or does not know what chromosomes she carries. absence of evidence does not prove an alternative claim, not to mention that publication of a genetic test is incredibly invasive! I don't blame her for not taking it, I wouldn't either. It's also not necessary, since, as the commenter above has already pointed out to you, the IOC and related governing bodies within the sport have already determined that she was eligible to compete. you are making intellectually dishonest arguments here in order to justify your bigotry

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Siena Popiel's avatar

Her own home country issued her the female passport that allowed her to compete in the Olympics as female.

Are we to assume that Algeria has gone woke and is issuing female passports to trans women?

SMH

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