In regards to ignoring Hunter. Its pretty obvious there was corruption happening. Until Joe enabled it they are separate matters. I still don't like it and it does throw up a cloud of suspicion that isn't welcome but who else is going to take it. Even before this no one but progressives were willing to give another candidate a chance on the Dem side both to preserve the incumbent advantages and/or everyone else is too extreme for the massive tent we need. Therefore, I shrug my shoulders. Quit hectoring me about things I can't change without providing a solution.
As for the WI Republicans I could see them impeaching the judge and then the governor appointing a Manchin equivalent "centrist." They then both call it a good compromise because the left was the only group that got screwed and ignore the bullshit way it was achieved as long as things "stabilize."
Ok, I have totally missed the Musk/Zuck thing... were they going to have a pickleball challenge? I mean, really? These guys are nerds. Filthy rich nerds, but yeah, weird nerds despite (or because of) their wannabe edgelord behavior. If I were to characterize this duo challenge in cinematic form... I think "Blades of Glory" might cover it.
Ginny, hi sorry about the long delay, been elsewhere. Why I’d like President Biden to step down -
1. I’d like all politicians over the age of 72 to drop out. Actually, all Article 1, 2 & 3 officers, elected or appointed. (This would include cabinet members, members of Congress and Supreme Court Justices.) Biden, in particular, is showing his age. We do t need another William Henry Harrison or Woodrow Wilson.
2. Hunter Biden is going to hang around President Biden’s neck like the Albatross in Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Remember President Clinton saying he never had sex with that woman? How confident should I be when the President says he never was involved in his son’s dealings? And even if he wasn’t, it will bean issue he can’t escape from.
3. I’m not confident Biden can rally enough voters to beat Trump.
I think if Hunters guilty he should be charged, convicted and appropriately punished. So far I’ve seen nothing that indicates President Biden was guilty of anything. I had a brother who I loved very much and is now deceased. We were very close. So many things I didn’t know till after the fact…even after his death in some cases. He was very good about concealing the truth (and some crimes) when he felt he needed to. I have great sympathy for people dealing with addiction and those who love them.
Indictment IV on Trump, et.al. just came down. Any person who calls themselves a “Never Trumper” and dares to compare Biden and Trump is not a “Never Trumper”. They are Republicans and that now means the party of Trump. Don’t listen to them.
And people are still carrying on about Hunter Biden, a private citizen, who will get his just desserts as he should. Let it go, so-called Never Trumpers.and try turning your attention to saving the country. Or are you just too Republican?
A grand jury indicted Donald Trump with conspiracy and other charges involving efforts to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election results.
Monday, August 14, 2023 11:09 PM ET
The indictment is an unprecedented challenge of presidential misconduct by a local prosecutor. It includes numerous charges against Mr. Trump, but the investigation also reached into his White House staff, the Trump campaign and the Justice Department."
Lindsey Graham has said in Fox news, “The American people can decide whether they want him to be president or not. This should be decided at the ballot box”
Hey Lindsey, great idea … we can save so much money on juries & court cases, judges etc. we’ll just put all criminal charges for the year on a massive ballot & have the US electorate decide guilt or innocence … after all we can’t two systems of justice. What a f**cking goose 🪿.
"BREAKING NEWS A grand jury has handed up a sealed indictment after hearing evidence of efforts to overturn Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election. Monday, August 14, 2023 8:53 PM ET But the details — including who is named in the indictment and what charges were brought — were not immediately clear. After a long day of the grand jurors hearing evidence, the full indictment is expected to be released later in the evening." NYTimes
Hunter is just Benghazi with a dash of Lewinsky. Media should not make more of it than a terribly tangential issue, purely a desperate attempt to tar Biden. Even if the most unsavory aspects of Hunter's business prove true, it's not in any away illegal and not even corrupt, assuming Biden himself kept his distance. Net net--it's at best bullshit but in comparison to the out in the open massive scamming and corruption of tRUmp, it's laughable to even discuss. tRUmp, himself, as president, in the office, was taking hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign sources. Himself. As president. While serving. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS. Hunter isn't even a rounding error on a rounding error of scope, scale or kind.
Trump is going to continue on his ‘Truth Social’ until the dear judge in Washington DC has enough of his Shenanigans. She’s going to order him, and his idiot attorneys that can’t seem to care about controlling their client, back to her humble courtroom and literally “raise the roof” of that place gnawing on their backsides until they can’t sit for a month!
She’s going to show Frumpy, the orange headed clown 🤡 just exactly what “Gehinnom” is! And I’m guessing when she’s done, he still won’t comply until she puts him in jail.
He’s going to continue pushing her until he lands in jail, which is exactly what he wants. Thus way, he can collect millions more from all his ‘minion sheep’ to pocket.
This clown 🤡 should have been put in jail a long time ago. No internet, no phone, with a TV showing all the news 24/7 about how many more indictments and civil suits he has coming, and his ‘minion sheep’ lost because their leader is not there to tell them to send him all their money.
STOP TRYING TO MAKE HUNTER BIDEN A THING. I feel like I'm in Mean Girls and Gretchen Wiener keeps saying "THATS SO FETCH". Joe lied about his kid making money in China?? How you you know he lied? Do you know all your kids finances? No. You don't. There isn't 2 sides here. Jared literally made BILLIONS off his father-in-law in office. Ivanka made money off Chinese trademarks she got. Literally ALL of Trumps kids made gobs of money off his presidency. But Republicans ignore all that. So Joe is OBVIOUSLY a bad guy. 😑 I'm so sick of this utter bullshit of "both sides". Republicans made their own rules up along the way and constantly move goalposts. 🙄
Wisconsin needs voter initiative propositions. The current Republican majorities would in no way create or approve of this. Cheers to Ohioans who last week preserved theirs when the Gerrymandered Republicans in that state looked for yet another way to diminish the vote and erode democracy.
In regards to ignoring Hunter. Its pretty obvious there was corruption happening. Until Joe enabled it they are separate matters. I still don't like it and it does throw up a cloud of suspicion that isn't welcome but who else is going to take it. Even before this no one but progressives were willing to give another candidate a chance on the Dem side both to preserve the incumbent advantages and/or everyone else is too extreme for the massive tent we need. Therefore, I shrug my shoulders. Quit hectoring me about things I can't change without providing a solution.
As for the WI Republicans I could see them impeaching the judge and then the governor appointing a Manchin equivalent "centrist." They then both call it a good compromise because the left was the only group that got screwed and ignore the bullshit way it was achieved as long as things "stabilize."
Ok, I have totally missed the Musk/Zuck thing... were they going to have a pickleball challenge? I mean, really? These guys are nerds. Filthy rich nerds, but yeah, weird nerds despite (or because of) their wannabe edgelord behavior. If I were to characterize this duo challenge in cinematic form... I think "Blades of Glory" might cover it.
This would be the time and opportunity for Biden to announce he is not running and give the Dem’s time to find a new candidate.
Ginny, hi sorry about the long delay, been elsewhere. Why I’d like President Biden to step down -
1. I’d like all politicians over the age of 72 to drop out. Actually, all Article 1, 2 & 3 officers, elected or appointed. (This would include cabinet members, members of Congress and Supreme Court Justices.) Biden, in particular, is showing his age. We do t need another William Henry Harrison or Woodrow Wilson.
2. Hunter Biden is going to hang around President Biden’s neck like the Albatross in Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Remember President Clinton saying he never had sex with that woman? How confident should I be when the President says he never was involved in his son’s dealings? And even if he wasn’t, it will bean issue he can’t escape from.
3. I’m not confident Biden can rally enough voters to beat Trump.
I think if Hunters guilty he should be charged, convicted and appropriately punished. So far I’ve seen nothing that indicates President Biden was guilty of anything. I had a brother who I loved very much and is now deceased. We were very close. So many things I didn’t know till after the fact…even after his death in some cases. He was very good about concealing the truth (and some crimes) when he felt he needed to. I have great sympathy for people dealing with addiction and those who love them.
Indictment IV on Trump, et.al. just came down. Any person who calls themselves a “Never Trumper” and dares to compare Biden and Trump is not a “Never Trumper”. They are Republicans and that now means the party of Trump. Don’t listen to them.
And people are still carrying on about Hunter Biden, a private citizen, who will get his just desserts as he should. Let it go, so-called Never Trumpers.and try turning your attention to saving the country. Or are you just too Republican?
NYT: "BREAKING NEWS
A grand jury indicted Donald Trump with conspiracy and other charges involving efforts to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election results.
Monday, August 14, 2023 11:09 PM ET
The indictment is an unprecedented challenge of presidential misconduct by a local prosecutor. It includes numerous charges against Mr. Trump, but the investigation also reached into his White House staff, the Trump campaign and the Justice Department."
Per The Guardian:
Lindsey Graham has said in Fox news, “The American people can decide whether they want him to be president or not. This should be decided at the ballot box”
Yeah, coz that worked so well last time.
Hey Lindsey, great idea … we can save so much money on juries & court cases, judges etc. we’ll just put all criminal charges for the year on a massive ballot & have the US electorate decide guilt or innocence … after all we can’t two systems of justice. What a f**cking goose 🪿.
"BREAKING NEWS A grand jury has handed up a sealed indictment after hearing evidence of efforts to overturn Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election. Monday, August 14, 2023 8:53 PM ET But the details — including who is named in the indictment and what charges were brought — were not immediately clear. After a long day of the grand jurors hearing evidence, the full indictment is expected to be released later in the evening." NYTimes
Hunter is just Benghazi with a dash of Lewinsky. Media should not make more of it than a terribly tangential issue, purely a desperate attempt to tar Biden. Even if the most unsavory aspects of Hunter's business prove true, it's not in any away illegal and not even corrupt, assuming Biden himself kept his distance. Net net--it's at best bullshit but in comparison to the out in the open massive scamming and corruption of tRUmp, it's laughable to even discuss. tRUmp, himself, as president, in the office, was taking hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign sources. Himself. As president. While serving. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS. Hunter isn't even a rounding error on a rounding error of scope, scale or kind.
Perhaps for Republicans it's only grift if the payoff is less than US$ 10-figures.
Trump is going to continue on his ‘Truth Social’ until the dear judge in Washington DC has enough of his Shenanigans. She’s going to order him, and his idiot attorneys that can’t seem to care about controlling their client, back to her humble courtroom and literally “raise the roof” of that place gnawing on their backsides until they can’t sit for a month!
She’s going to show Frumpy, the orange headed clown 🤡 just exactly what “Gehinnom” is! And I’m guessing when she’s done, he still won’t comply until she puts him in jail.
He’s going to continue pushing her until he lands in jail, which is exactly what he wants. Thus way, he can collect millions more from all his ‘minion sheep’ to pocket.
This clown 🤡 should have been put in jail a long time ago. No internet, no phone, with a TV showing all the news 24/7 about how many more indictments and civil suits he has coming, and his ‘minion sheep’ lost because their leader is not there to tell them to send him all their money.
The Rattner chart is the real "Cheap Shot".
STOP TRYING TO MAKE HUNTER BIDEN A THING. I feel like I'm in Mean Girls and Gretchen Wiener keeps saying "THATS SO FETCH". Joe lied about his kid making money in China?? How you you know he lied? Do you know all your kids finances? No. You don't. There isn't 2 sides here. Jared literally made BILLIONS off his father-in-law in office. Ivanka made money off Chinese trademarks she got. Literally ALL of Trumps kids made gobs of money off his presidency. But Republicans ignore all that. So Joe is OBVIOUSLY a bad guy. 😑 I'm so sick of this utter bullshit of "both sides". Republicans made their own rules up along the way and constantly move goalposts. 🙄
Wisconsin needs voter initiative propositions. The current Republican majorities would in no way create or approve of this. Cheers to Ohioans who last week preserved theirs when the Gerrymandered Republicans in that state looked for yet another way to diminish the vote and erode democracy.
Hallelujah, Nicholas Grossman!! AMEN to all of it!
Regarding the newspaper raid story, I say “Just Try That (professional journalism) in a Small Town.”