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HistoricalHolli's avatar

"Motivated ignorance". I used to call it "willful ignorance to avoid cognitive dissonance."

As my Mom said to me in 2005 "I don't like talking about these things with you. You have all these facts, and I just know what I believe." And just this past weekend, The Man was trying to get through to his dad, saying that Fox had been found liable for fraud to the tune of a billion dollars for lying about the election. His dad's response: "I don't care."

All we can do is defeat and minimize these people. There is no convincing. It's a bigger self-delusion that the Lost Cause, and that's saying something.

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David Court's avatar

The only positive thing to take from this is "their" age. The question is how many of them will still be believing CFT won 2020 after he is long gone...or will they beat him?

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knowltok's avatar

I don't have parents with those views, but I'd have a hard time not firing back with something along the lines of, "Well sorry, but I wasn't raised to just disregard facts I don't like."

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HistoricalHolli's avatar

Snort -- maybe I would if that were in any way true. This has been a thing between us since I was maybe 12. I don't live there anymore, and I see my family once or twice a year. I don't see the point in turning those times into endless arguments that go absolutely nowhere. It sucks to have a completely shallow relationship with my mom that's based on talking about Christmas movies, but it is what it is.

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

Same, but I still miss her MAGA self since we lost her last year at 91. We talked about my dog and her grandchildren and it was good, but I lost her before she died, really.

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HistoricalHolli's avatar

Our relationship has always been pretty surface, especially once I figured out she didn't like the "real me" very much. We talk about Christmas movies and Yacht Rock, and she tries to manipulate me into moving back to Memphis 😂

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knowltok's avatar

Nah, I get that. And given my wife's experience with her father (non-political, though he's likely a trumper), it can be far, far worse.

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HistoricalHolli's avatar

It's been worse, another reason I'm not looking to revisit it. My family went through Trump and Fox News destroying families in 2011-2012 because Obama was a secret Muslim.

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knowltok's avatar

I wonder why he still keeps it secret. Probably part of a larger, more devious plot.

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HistoricalHolli's avatar

Probably has something to do with dijon mustard and brown suits.

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Linda Oliver's avatar

Yes, there’s no convincing these people, it’s like trying to nail jello to a wall. Their feelings don’t care about your facts.

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Sko Hayes's avatar

Was it MLK Jr who called it "conscientious ignorance"?

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