I would go further and use the phrase “perfect movie” in the Sonny Bunch context to describe it. I love the movie. I was more criticizing your guest’s position that it makes you love and want to be in the gang.
The idea Cowarde l’Orange wants to be a member of the Corleoni family doesn’t mean reasonable people of sound moral purchase do…
Good discussion. However, I'm not whether film has changed us or we drove what passes as entertainment. I suppose that debate has gone on since the first story told people about a hero that didn't exist, but how people should be. Of course, certain films, such as Casablanca provides a more realistic lesson but they depend on a thoughtful story written by a thoughtful person that hasn't proven to be as big a money-maker as a superficial Marvel Universe movie or a fast-paced series of violent interactions and chases are.
A good comparison in my opinion is The Killing Fields that showed the reality of the result of a failed state, due in large part to US involvement in Vietnam, versus any of the stupid "Fast and Furies" cartoons. So, getting back to the issue of movies changing us, was it the violent, fast-paced movie that changed us or was it us that demanded violent, fast-paced movie genre?
Interesting conversation, but damn so bleak JVL should have a cigarette after listening
I always thought The Godfather was a story about the tragedy of how someone can want to be a good person and become an awful one for good reasons…
And yet … and yet: it is *awfully* magnetic, that film, is it not?
I would go further and use the phrase “perfect movie” in the Sonny Bunch context to describe it. I love the movie. I was more criticizing your guest’s position that it makes you love and want to be in the gang.
The idea Cowarde l’Orange wants to be a member of the Corleoni family doesn’t mean reasonable people of sound moral purchase do…
Good discussion. However, I'm not whether film has changed us or we drove what passes as entertainment. I suppose that debate has gone on since the first story told people about a hero that didn't exist, but how people should be. Of course, certain films, such as Casablanca provides a more realistic lesson but they depend on a thoughtful story written by a thoughtful person that hasn't proven to be as big a money-maker as a superficial Marvel Universe movie or a fast-paced series of violent interactions and chases are.
A good comparison in my opinion is The Killing Fields that showed the reality of the result of a failed state, due in large part to US involvement in Vietnam, versus any of the stupid "Fast and Furies" cartoons. So, getting back to the issue of movies changing us, was it the violent, fast-paced movie that changed us or was it us that demanded violent, fast-paced movie genre?
Well stated.
Sonny, thank you for another worthwhile discussion.