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Kathleen Weber's avatar

Iran's attack upon Israel yesterday was the military equivalent of a squirt gun. They sent an attack they knew was likely to cause hardly any damage. This isn't the time for anyone to escalate!

It is true that a simmering war has been going on in the Middle East for decades now, but a simmer is better than a boil. When you turn the heat to maximum that's when the kitchen is set on fire. When you start something with Iran, you'd better be determined to finish it. Bombing isn't going to do it and invading a large Middle Eastern country turned out so well when we tried it in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bill Kristol is a well-known neocon who thinks way too highly of the usefulness of warfare.

The Middle East has been simmering for centuries, due to many disagreements, fundamental among them the Sunni Shia split. There is no military means of settling these permanent conflicts.

BTW, I think we should take every defensive means to discourage China in the Pacific, and we should also arm Ukraine. But the Middle East is a hellhole best left to its own devices. We don't need to attack Iran to defend Israel. And, by the way, Iran's nuclear facilities are buried too deep for us to destroy. We'd have to have someone on the inside or a cyberattack to take them out.

What is absolutely wonderful is that we no longer need Middle Eastern oil—we've got plenty of our own.

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It isn't the Administration, Bill, that is ignoring the deteriorating state of world affairs... or rather, it isn't primarily or just the Administration. Because they seemed to have their shit together enough to blunt the attack on Israel.

It is a HUGE chunk of the Amercian electorate that is the "problem.". A chunk that does not trust or believe in our institutions. A chunk that has an increasingly alternative perception of world affairs and of who the bad guys are (and it is not just the Right/MAGA we are talking about here). It is a chunk that watched us fight in Afghanistan and Iraq for twenty years, spending trillions of dollars and thousands of lives... for, in effect, nothing. And they are unwilling to do that (or worse) again.

If the political will for something does not exist and/or cannot be mobilized, then it doesn't really matter that much what the administration believes or doesn't believe--unless they can do stuff on the down low to prepare for the inevitable confrontation.

And having a do-nothing, hostile GoP House majority that is effectively in the tank for the Bad Guys makes that difficult, if not impossible.

The prevailing public sentiment about all of this stuff is likely, just keep us out of it.

As is usual with America, it will require some kind of event that strikes close to home before the American public will be willing to do something. Stuff happening in UKR, the Phillipines, or Israel does not hit close enough. You need a Pearl Harbor or 9/11 or Lusitania.

And so far, the Coalition of Bad Guys has been smart enough not to do something like that. So things will deteriorate until they are either that stupid, or they figure their time has come and they attack.

And THAT will be FAR more expensive to us than all of the stuff people are currently bitching about. It usually is.

As I remarked last week, one of the major lessons of history is that people do NOT learn the lessons of history. Even though history tries to teach us these things repeatedly.

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