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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Tim you are 100% correct. Those democrats that refuse to believe their “lying” eyes are the ones that sound, and act just like MAGA.

This is not a one off. This issue has been circulating for over a year. I was in denial because no one gave us an evidence it was true. I was wrong.

And Biden has been playing catch up for a year. He’s losing in every swing, and battleground state by almost double digits. States like NM and Virginia are now in play.

Biden did an amazing job, but he is not capable of governing for four more years, or capable of articulating his successes, or refuting Trump’s lies.

The good news is that 72% of Americans want a younger candidate, whether Biden or Trump, so a change isn’t a death sentence. It might actually be our saving grace. Plus, a new candidate wouldn’t have the Gaza or Ukraine baggage that is hurting Joe in crucial swing states with the youth, and Muslim communities.

Great podcast, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. I would never allow MAGA to gaslight me, and I certainly won’t allow my party to do the same.

For the sake of our republic, Biden needs to go. Voter outrage, and Biden’s inability to communicate his messaging effectively, or at all, for the matter, means we need to pass the baton to a younger generation, sooner than later.

IMHO…:)

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Angie's avatar

Sigh, I don't have lyin eyes, I have a way different view of what actually happened, while acknowledging it was bad, I don't think there was any conspiracy etc.

Can't you guys make your case without insulting those of us who disagree? Please..I am not insulting you

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

No offense, but I didn’t intend to insult anyone. However, I wasn’t talking about you, I was talking about people who say Biden answered all the questions honestly and correctly, and then deflect to Trump’s lies.

We all know Trump is a liar, but apparently over 50% of Americans didn’t get the memo, or believe otherwise. My point, if you’re expecting Trump’s authoritarian tendencies, and his lies, or his health to throw the election to Biden, then we’ve already lost.

That said, I’m upset because Biden and his team have been lying to us for over a year. This election is greater than any one person. If he would have decided to not seek a second term, we’d be talking about Trump, the fascist SC, and the Heritage Foundation; instead, we’re talking about Biden’s cognitive decline. He’s become a distraction, and this is a recipe for disaster.

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Angie's avatar

Thanks for the clarification

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meryl selig's avatar

Spot on, Robert. Thank you

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Jill Boyer-Lehnert's avatar

My 2x Trump voter Republican brother just stopped by today and we spoke about the Debate. I told him Biden should step down and we should get another candidate. He told me that he doesn’t even care about party affiliation and would vote for anyone that is not Trump or Biden. I really think if we get another candidate with a fresh much younger face, we could make some major gains.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Totally agree. The focus groups have been telling us that for over a year. Most Americans want a charismatic, youthful leader, whose not a psychopath. And sadly, for a country with 330 million people, we are stuck with a choice of a corrupt, narcissistic, vindictive sociopath, or an amicable octogenarian, suffering from cognitive decline.

You would think a country like ours would offer a plethora of qualified candidates, yet here we are, thanks to a two party system that’s dividing this nation in two.

Good times…:)

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Tim Ward's avatar

Excellent take, devoid of panic. The future of our country is what counts in the end, and it's no time to dismiss what is self-evidently true in service of faint hopes.

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