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SandyG's avatar

Yep. Jews are white because they are powerful, so they can't be the victim. And anything white is bad.

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Cheerio's avatar

Really? There are a lot of Jewish people of color.

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But none of them are in leadership in Israel. Same with the US - any Jews who are visible and powerful are not POC.

Just a quick note on power and the Left. This is the prism through which they view social structures. I got this from Fukuyama's "Liberalism and Its Discontents": The critique of the liberalsim of The Enlightenment that spawned the Declaration of Indepence and the Constitution came from from French philosophers in the 1960s. (I was in college then and although I never read them, they were well-known among the anti-war literati on campus I hung around with.) This point of view came to be known as critical theory and it spawned Critical Race Theory in the 1970s.

The critique is that the domination of the powerful over the oppressed was embedded in liberalism. Any who advocated liberal values such as equality, individual rights, private property, were unconsciously suppressing marginalized groups.

So, for the progressive Left, power is bad. That's the bottom line. It just happens to be held by straight, white, males. Here's the syllogism: Straight, white, male, liberal democracy power is bad --> Israel holds power --> Israel is white.

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Yes. I learned about these Jews who had lived in Palestine for over a century in a terrific documentary I watched recently, "How Britain Started the Arab-Israeli Conflict" (https://youtu.be/ZXfuqUhzESg?si=hHImzStT1W1hPaI8). Even the Jews in Israel were divided. The right-wing extremist who assasinated Rabin was a Mizrahi Jew. He had been rejected by the Ashkenazi parents of a girl he was dating because he was Mizrahi.

Quick story: I was in Ireland a few summers ago. We went to Derry in Northern Ireland, the scene of much of the violence during "the troubles". In that conflict, both sides were white, and being Irish (like me), about as white as you can get! The schools in Derry were segregated then. They have just started to be integrated.

I asked our guide, having experienced the color line in the US, how did you know the difference between Catholics and Protestants? It was by where you went to school.

I'm sure the progressives know little about either of those situations because it's not convenient to their "straight/white/male is bad" agenda.

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Humans have a tendency to slice and dice our identities ever finer. Even with something as mundane as dress codes in private schools, kids find a way to distinguish in-group versus out-group, via something as irrelevant as shoelaces.

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Well said, GG!

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Sadly, I donтАЩt hear very many stories of kind-hearted nuns.

I grew up of modest means too, and I remember a lot of the microscopic ways in which that was obvious, even without being ratted out. Luckily we both survived!

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I was thinking the same thing. Nuns are low down in Catholic hierarchy, but they can rule supreme over helpless children.

Nursing used to be similar; the тАЬbattle axeтАЭ nurse was a familiar type. And they also were known to take out their resentment on new nurses too.

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