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Cactus spine's avatar

It bothers me so much that after 70 years as a proud American, I am now celebrating when our president is defeated and humiliated publicly. He's the most vile person imaginable.

Maureen Lynch's avatar

I feel our decline and shame in my bones

OJVV's avatar
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According to H. David Baer, this feeling is what helped Hungry swing back from the edge.

thomas erb's avatar

and I'm not proud to fly my flag anymore :(

Katherine B Barz's avatar

No. Keep it flying. If people such as yourself don’t then the only people who do are MAGAs, and they don’t deserve to fly the flag.

Gary's avatar

Keep flying it Katherine. It’s our flag too.

Katherine B Barz's avatar

Absolutely! That flag represents all the good we tried to do in 250 years. No one should forget that.

Maureen Lynch's avatar

You’re right about owning the flag. But the fact that I feel ambivalent about it, makes me sad. I’ve never felt that way before.

Radical Centrist's avatar

I know how you feel --- sometimes I fear that flying the flag or wearing a flag pin signals to people around me (especially the most vulnerable) that I'm MAGA. But we can NOT let them appropriate this symbol of freedom and justice. We must take it back. Fly it proudly. 🤎

Heidi in Real Time's avatar

I fly a California flag bc despite its imperfections, Im damn proud of my state. The people down the street started flying both CA & USA flags which inspired me. Perhaps pushback on the hostile MAGA takeover of patriotism isn't as hard as I think.

Katherine B Barz's avatar

I share your ambivalence Maureen. I use that ambivalence to think long and deep, usually when walking, about what makes me so ambivalent, and what actions I can take. I am no great thinker, but I use this time to articulate what is wrong in this country and ways to turn things around. Sometimes I am up to four miles a day. That’s a lot of thinking!

Maureen Lynch's avatar

Katherine same I walk 3-5 mi per day. Hard on my soul and heart sometimes but great for my physical health. But I honestly have to say after a walk I feel more balanced.

DLVino's avatar
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My son is soon to attend the Naval Academy. It’s been his goal for a very long time. People think we are politically aligned with the current administration, but that could not be farther from the truth.

While I worry for him, I know he is exactly who we need leading others and defending our Constitution in the years to come

Katherine B Barz's avatar

I wish your son the best of good luck.

Heidi Richman's avatar

I love that No Kings 1 happened on Flag Day!

Peter H.'s avatar

I spent two and half decades in uniform defending what that flag represents. I'll be damned if I ever let these oxygen thieves steal it from me.

Maureen Lynch's avatar

Thank you for your service

Eric73's avatar

> "A true patriot has a capacity to feel both pride and shame in his country".

Take heart in these words by the author. I don't know who he is, but this may just be the healthiest expression of national pride I've ever heard. If I had the power I would make this our national motto. Seriously.

Imagine our children growing up thinking of their country in this way. Our national spirit would be inherently innoculated against both the thin-skinned, ossifying jingoism of the right and the judgemental, destructive self-hatred of the left.

Don't despair over this misleading sense of torn allegience you're experiencing right now. It's a healthy indication of your devotion to the spirit of our Constitution over the man who currently occupies the office. That is exactly what real patriotism demands of all of us in this moment.

I assure you, George Washington would be proud.

Garvin's avatar

Regarding: "Is Trump Resurrecting Epstein?" Hah, Bill, I didn't know you could be so snarky! Thanks for that laugh.

rlritt's avatar

Who comes up with these weird "Trump as Christ" images? Don't Christians think they're blasphemy?

David Court's avatar

How can it be blasphemy? Don't you remember? He declared himself that "I am the Chosen One". (Lest there be doubt: SARCASM ALERT!!)

dcicero's avatar

That's right.

TomD's avatar

QMAGAnon Man thinks Trump *is* the Second Coming.

JMP's avatar

This is a bigger deal than people think. Trump's "evangelical" followers are deeply offended by this post. Maybe this is the breaking point. Anti-Trumper Harry Sisson summarizes the bigger issue best:

"Trump is having a mental health episode right now. He’s been posting on social media all night. He posted at:

9:49pm (Ai Jesus photo)

9:50pm (Trump tower on moon)

10:10pm (dumb meme)

10:32pm (news clip)

10:53pm (news clip)

12:43am (announcing Hormuz blockade)

2:35am (article about Biden)

2:36am (article on naval blockade)

2:37am (article on Rep. Swalwell)

2:37am (posted the same article about Biden again)

2:38am (article on his ballroom)

4:10am (article on Iran)

He’s not sleeping, he’s pretending to be Jesus, and he’s posting all night. He’s not well."

Amy in Jersey's avatar

This Catholic does!

Dave's avatar

MTG certainly called it that

Dave Yell's avatar

That is the image that Trump sees himself as. And the sycophants follow suit.

Garvin's avatar

From The Guardian: "The AI-generated image Trump shared was not the original. The picture first appeared in early February, posted to X by Nick Adams, a conservative commentator with a history of sharing AI-generated, biblically themed Trump content. In Adams’s version, a silhouette of a US soldier stands in the background. In Trump’s version, that soldier has been photoshopped into a demonic figure with horns looming behind the president as he performs his miracle."

Let's speculate on who the horned figure is!

Patrick Rutledge's avatar

I think Queen Melania beat him to it!

KN in NC's avatar

It's exactly what I thought when I saw that image. Since the image is AI, it probably conjured Epstein as the dead person most linked to Trump and modeled the recipient of messiah-Trump's ministrations on Epstein.

Cecil Bothwell's avatar

And now the AI Epstein can testify!

Al Brown's avatar

That picture is one of the most sickening and blasphemous things that I've ever seen in my life. Fortunately, we had Bill around to deal it the perfect putdown.

JMP's avatar

Will Republicans like Mike Johnson denounce this? Or will it be, "I haven't seen the post, no comment," as usual?

Garvin's avatar

From The Guardian: "The AI-generated image Trump shared was not the original. The picture first appeared in early February, posted to X by Nick Adams, a conservative commentator with a history of sharing AI-generated, biblically themed Trump content. In Adams’s version, a silhouette of a US soldier stands in the background. In Trump’s version, that soldier has been photoshopped into a demonic figure with horns looming behind the president as he performs his miracle."

Let's speculate on who the horned figure is!

HH's avatar

It's either him or Anthony Bourdain... the angle on that A.I. slop isn't great. 🤔

Laura Vaught's avatar

Indeed. That was a banger.

Justin Lee's avatar

JD Vance is having a rough week. Failed peace talks, Orban getting crushed after campaigning for him, and a recent poll showing he's the most unpopular vice president in the history of the country.

Janet Wilson's avatar

Yah but that photo of him grinning with the slimy Orban will be a meme forever!

Karen Turley's avatar

It's because none of these people experience shame. Literally. They are oblivious to anything that would mortify a normal person.

Dave Yell's avatar

Shamelessness is their super power

dcicero's avatar

Well, the photo of him in Greenland in the giant parka is pretty good too.

Dave Yell's avatar

A large parka hides his girth along with his oversized suits.

David Court's avatar

The only question is which one is slimyer?

Duane Pierson's avatar

Joy, oh sweet joy! JD, the opportunistic climber is engendering the pushback he richly deserves.

The Blockhead Chronicles's avatar

His couch isn't happy, either. He's been away so long!

Keith Wresch's avatar

His couch probably breathed a sigh or relief.

Mike Lew's avatar

A settee of relief? 😀

Linda Oliver's avatar

It took the Obama Administration 18 months to hammer out the JCPOA, which Trump promptly threw out because it had Obama’s name on it. It’s no surprise that Mr. Zero Charisma hasn’t got it done.

JMP's avatar

How can you expect 3 men with absolutely zero negotiation or diplomatic skills, with zero substantial preparation, with zero understanding of the background, or history, of their opponents to come away with any kind of success? I say they had ZERO chance from the get-go. This is what happens when a President substitutes loyalty for expertise and intelligence. Trump is killing our government with his idiocy.

Jeanne Golliher's avatar

Actually, the work towards the creation of the JCPOA goes back even before Obama's administration. The international community engaged in intensive negotiations with Iran for roughly 12 years regarding its nuclear program, starting around 2003 and culminating in the JCPOA agreement on July 14, 2015. Only a malignant narcissist could believe that three unqualified cosplaying "negotiators" could do in two days what it took the the best minds in the world more than a decade to structure.

Richard Kane's avatar

At least he should be proud of himself for beating out Spiro Agnew!!!

Mike Lew's avatar

For all of his very real faults, "nattering nabobs of negativism" was a pretty good turn of phrase. 😀

Linda Oliver's avatar

Agnew did seem good at alliteration; didn’t he also coin “pointy-headed intellectuals”, encouraging Conservative admiration for ignorance?

James Byham's avatar

Didn't Pat Buchanan write it ?

Brad's avatar

I believe it was William Safire.

Linda Skinner's avatar

Nice to have some great news!

citizen spot's avatar

Regarding Orban getting shellacked in the election, I guess we can finally say "Thank You!" to JD now.

Dave Yell's avatar

Next up: Failure in 2028.

Jeri in Tx's avatar

Brought it on himself.

Mike Lew's avatar
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The Pope is weak on crime. Wow, I can't even...

TomD's avatar
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Really. Come to think of it, so was Jesus, being that he deigned to be crucified in the company of common criminals...

Keith Wresch's avatar

Tell that to the Swiss Guard! I for one would love to see the Vatican City crime statistics to know what the Orange one means by *soft*.

rlritt's avatar

Have you ever seen those Swiss Guards at the Vatican? They are adorable in their Renaissance outfits. The Vatican also has quite a few real soldiers keeping an eye on the place.

Keith Wresch's avatar

I have seen them, and adorable is the right term. The criteria to be selected too is much more stringent than Trump’s wanna be ICE army.

TomD's avatar
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The Swiss Guard are real soldiers. When they are not wearing colorful 16th century outfits, they are equipped with automatic rifles, Glock pistols, etc.

dcicero's avatar

Absolutely right. They are the baddest of bad asses. Nobody messes with them. People forget that those uniforms were functional back in the Renaissance and those poleaxes? Those dudes would be more than willing to use them if the Swiss Guards on the roof with the sniper rifles were to miss somehow.

They're probably the most highly-trained, highly-qualified security force in the world. The most amazing thing is that you almost never see them at The Vatican. You only see the guys in the landsknecht uniforms.

TomD's avatar

I think they are the same guys, different assignments.

TomD's avatar

Plus, they are augmented by a like number of the Vatican Gendarmerie, a police force with SWAT, etc.

Peter H.'s avatar

Despite the ceremonial uniforms (which they obviously don't work in all the time), I assure you they are every bit "real soldiers" trained to an elite special operator tier. Fascinating history and very, very bad ass.

TomD's avatar

I love that the Vatican has a DMV too.

Mike Lew's avatar

They're the same guys. Started as literal mercenaries.

TomD's avatar

You know...forgiving them for their sins.. .

dcicero's avatar

Those poleaxes? They know how to use them and are sooooo ready to do so.

Mike Lew's avatar

I don't doubt for a second that if things went sideways, they'd eagerly show that the poleaxe is a serious weapon.

Kate Fall's avatar

Let's picture Trump wandering around Hell, shall we? Of all the things that might happen, we must put this one in the "likely" column.

"Man, this Pope is weak on crime, right, everyone? It's barely even sulfuric here."

Mary's avatar

There should be a Cook "Religious" Report for political figures. Solidly Heaven, Leans Heaven, Toss Up, Leans Hell, Solidly Hell.

Mike Lew's avatar

I'd love that everytime he opens his mouth, the most minor demon (he most certainly would thrive on personal attention from Lucifer) tells him" "shut up, loser."

Different drummer's avatar

From Heather CR's letter this morning: "The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)...took 20 months to hash out [under Obama, which T tore up].

"Yesterday Vice President J.D. Vance, Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, and Trump’s special envoy for the Middle East Steve Witkoff were in Islamabad, Pakistan, to negotiate with Iran... And yet these leaders of the U.S. delegation, who have no experience in diplomacy, announced after only 21 hours that they could not reach an agreement and were leaving."

Good point.

Michael's avatar

Why is Kushner involved again? Has anyone asked the admin about this? He is not qualified, nor appointed to any position that would allow him into these meetings. And he has personal financial interests with partners in the region. It’s crazy.

Katherine B Barz's avatar

Same for Witkoff. While the Marco Rubio is sidelined watching a cage match with the felon in Florida, and the State Department’s experts on Iran fired, you can see how much TACO Don cares about international affairs.

Different drummer's avatar

Good question. Tim's been going berserk on this very point, esp. that he was in the Situation Room. With this regime, there is ZERO respect for any law, precedent, custom, etc.

Danielle NJ's avatar

So that Russia and Israel are represented in the talks.

Michael's avatar

It is remarkable how much Trump and all his pals love Russia.

max skinner's avatar

Sarcasm font: Why they are master negotiators doing master negotiating. They make deals for billions of dollars. The US is lucky to have them doing this work. Sarcasm font ends.

This administration has no idea what international relations is, no respect for any other country, and thinks that making ultimatums is negotiating because it show "strength". And maybe it works in the business world sometimes depending on what the goal is but it sure doesn't in international relations.

Jeri in Tx's avatar

2 shady real estate billionaires playing The What's in it For Me game. Every single person in the orange monster's cabinet doesn't have to be an expert, they just have see if they can make some coin. And some don't even have to be officially in the WH.

I really hope that li'l marco big-shoes had a grand time at the wrassling match (instead of his job). He looked blitzed AF.

Maureen Lynch's avatar

The Three Stooges

TomD's avatar

Idiotic diplomacy is idiotic war by other idiotic means.

Mike Lew's avatar

How is this possible? They've all negotiated real estate deals. Solving a war with decades (centuries?) of conflict should be child's play in comparison.

/s

Linda Oliver's avatar

I’d read 18 months. If so, my mistake.

Patrick | Complex Simplicity's avatar

It sure feels like we are sleepwalking through a staggering geopolitical inversion, dangerously numb to the scale of the constant institutional collapse unfolding before us. We are now forced to digest a humiliating reality of Hungary, a nation that spent the last sixteen years suffocating under kleptocratic authoritarianism, suddenly emerging as a more rational, functioning democracy than the United States. What makes Péter Magyar’s electoral triumph over Viktor Orbán truly breathtaking is the shameful spectacle of America's own political leadership actively attempting to thwart it. The Vice President of the United States stood in Budapest to prop up a decaying autocrat mere days before the Hungarian electorate vehemently expelled him.

While the citizens of Hungary rightfully celebrate their democratic resurgence, Americans must recognize this moment for what it is, the definitive abdication of American global leadership. We are witnessing the ugly, unceremonious death of the American century. In a single week, as Budapest firmly reclaims the rule of law, Washington alienates core allies, provokes blind military conflict in the Middle East, and openly mourns the fall of an illiberal strongman it desperately campaigned to save. The United States is no longer the vanguard of the free world, our executive branch has devolved into a reactionary impediment, actively standing in the way of global democratic progress.

It's truly sickening, and I think most people are missing the full picture here.

David Court's avatar

MAGAnuts, in the main, certainly seem to be.

Jeri in Tx's avatar

Hungary dumped a corrupt authoritarian. Mexico is rolling out Universal Healthcare. The idiot-in-chief started a war full of war-criming with a drunken ex-weekend news host with bad tattoos, and the mentality of a 12 yr. old boy with emotional issues. Congress is on a paid vacation even when they are there, they're just calling it in. We've pissed off our Allies.

We are the shithole country.

Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

Pope Leo will not attack a crazy old man out of empathy, but if the crazy old man thinks he can best Pope Leo, he's truly crazy. Which he is, always has been and will be. Amen

My initial reaction to Bill's send up of Trump's AI post was pure laughter. Then I actually looked at the image and barely kept down breakfast.

What Hungarians accomplished by ousting Orban is an important lesson for Americans. It is entirely possible to love your country and be utterly ashamed of it's leadership. No Kings marches need to continue and become more frequent. Let's go for a supermajority!

Lewis Grotelueschen's avatar

"supermajority"

Every Democrat, in their rhetoric, should ask themselves if they are helping or hurting the building of a coalition broad enough to win a filibuster proof majority in the Senate.

Ann Williams's avatar

If you really want a closer American analog to Hungary you wouldn’t just be going for a filibuster-proof majority - you’d be looking at veto-override numbers in both houses, which are also what you need to amend the constitution.

Mike Lew's avatar

The problem is, if Democrats get a supermajority will they have the courage to quickly USE it? The drumbeat for bipartisanship will be deafening.

Ann Williams's avatar

Maybe, but I wonder. I think if there is any drumbeat felt by any particular elected official it will be coming from inside their own head, not from reading election results.

Mike Lew's avatar

Almost every news outlet, almost every newspaper, hundreds of pundits. The conventional wisdom will be for Democrats to not overstep their mandate. That's follow every Democratic victory since I started paying attention in the 80s. I've also only seen Democratic cowardice since the 80s.

I don't doubt for a second that the elections need to be good for Democrats. I just hope they can be different after a victory.

Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

I think you might be wrong because of one trend. The upcoming vote is getting set up not as a choice between two political parties, but as a moral choice between good and evil. The Dems, if they win big, will be swept into a new understanding of the will of the people. Trump doesn't understand this, but he senses the field of political combat is changing so he attacks the pope.

The last time the Vatican picked a truly outside the park candidate was John Paul II. He was a polish pope elected just as Solidarity was becoming a major pro democracy force in Poland. We all know what happened, Mr Gorbachev was forced to tear down that wall.

We now have an American Pope whose moral mission is to serve as the counterpoint to the American president and the Christian Nationalism rising in the Christian west. In this environment the choice is not between existing political parties, but between the moral direction of countries. Poland and Hungary have done their part and now our turn is coming.

It's not an accident that Swalwell's candidacy went down in flames, or that Texas's Tony Gonzalez suffered the same fate. The Dem party is getting cleaned of it's moral rot. Pope Leo would not have any credibility on the world stage if the Church hadn't been forced into cleaning up it's own moral rot.

The moral arch of the Universe bends towards justice but the strength and flex of the bend reflects our choices....always has, does now, and will in the future. Jesus ain't coming to save us again.

Maureen Lynch's avatar

May Day Strong No Kings

Kate Fall's avatar

May 1. National strike.

Different drummer's avatar

I'm not at all a religious person, but that picture of T in CS turns my stomach and makes my skin crawl.

Merrill's avatar

Ignore the Bombast bloviator. When you see or hear his miserable excuse for "words" follow Melania's advice "I don't care. Do you?" Praise the Hungarians. Believe the Pope's Message of Peace and caring for the less fortunate than us. Find a candidate you like and support them through Nov. Bring your friends. Save the America we love.

Steven Insertname's avatar

Check your voter registration status, early and often.

Ann Williams's avatar

How dumb do you have to be to make your fellow Americans cheer the scrappy Iranian underdogs and their memes?

rlritt's avatar

That's what is so amazing! Trump is making the vicious Iranian theocracy look sympathetic and reasonable.

RichinPhoenix's avatar

No matter what, no matter how much I oppose Trump, I will never cheer for the Iranian regime, their revolutionary guards, or their military. The regime is the epitome of evil and no propaganda will change that. Never forget that even with the Trump insanity. I will support the Iranian people and their desire for freedom from the regime’s oppression and theocracy.

Ann Williams's avatar

Yeah but the Lego memes are still funny.

RichinPhoenix's avatar

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kotzsu's avatar

As a Hungarian American, very proud of Hungary. The lesson for Americans I think is:

(1) You need to put together large, durable, and pragmatic coalitions to defeat entrenched competitive authoritarian systems. This will be our challenge as well. The majority of the country was always left of Orban, but it was too long divided to defeat Orban.

(2) Magyar's last name is basically "Hungarian." So we need a candidate named "American," like "Johnny America," or something. Buttigieg ought to consider changing his name to Pete America-man.

rlritt's avatar

OMG. Trump is just mad that Iran thought to charge ships in order to go thru the Strait. If Iran gives Trump a cut of the toll money, I'm sure Trump will go home happy. With Trump every decision is about money.

David Court's avatar

True, but what incentive does Iran have to split what they already have pocketed?

Jeri in Tx's avatar

If you give him a little he'll want it all.

Oldandintheway's avatar

Hungary is a small country with a turbulent history. The US is much bigger and has alwasy been more diverse and more prosperous. Yet, Hungary shows us how people can recover from falling into the pit of authoritarianism. They did it peacefully and decisively.

Orban also did not attempt to destroy the world. He just was corrupt on the national leverl. Trump wants to be Putin, not Orban. But the US is not Russia. Too may people in America have opinions and they want to have a voice in what goes on. Trump steps on the press and we get a thousand independent reporters. The Democratic Party falls asleep and a thousand grassroots organizations rally to find candidates and GOTV. Everyone here will be part of the Ameica's reclamation project.

Lewis Grotelueschen's avatar

The issue of "school choice" shows how thoroughly the GOP takes rural voters for granted. I live in a rural county of 10,000 in Nebraska. The schools in the county are all public. A few years ago, the Republican dominated legislature and the Republican governor pushed through a so-called "school choice" bill only to have it repealed by voter referendum. The voter opposition is not hard to trace when you count up the number of people in areas like mine where the bill is only a cost with no benefit. But the Democrats seem unable to make the issue work for them.

Kate Fall's avatar

Democrats don't get the issue to work for them because of a constant drumbeat of propaganda saying "If you're against using public money for religious schools, you hate God and deserve Hell."

Mike Lew's avatar

Don't forget the evergreen bogey man of teachers' unions!

Michael C Barry's avatar

As a Catholic Id like to point out 900 converts took professions of faith this Easter in my diocese alone. Doesn’t seem like the Holy Father is bad for the brand as our thoughtful President indicated in his TS post. 🤷‍♂️

Lewis Grotelueschen's avatar

"Is Trump Resurrecting Epstein?" Melania did that.