I fall in that zone where I probably got the vaccine around the time they changed it. Got titers tested 2 years ago and didn’t have immunity to measles (other 2 ok). Got MMR again…. Of course, that also means I have older folk in my life…. 🤬
Vaccines are one area that should be removed from the SC’s jurisdiction. They are too political to be trusted to rule based on evidence.
I had measles as a child. Nearly everyone got it back then. I do not recommend it. Many children recover just fine, but some do not. Do parents really want to roll the dice on whether their child gets so sick that they need to go to the hospital?
Idaho: the state where the sight of one potential transgender person using a women's bathroom caused all kinds of legislative effort to "protect children," is also the state with the lowest vaccination rates, exposing many children to much worse harm.
"Make Measles Great Again" was literally what I had on my first protest poster of 2025 during the height of the DOGE cuts. I even drew an outline of a person covered with red dots. It was a big hit among the other protesters.
This makes me crazy. I was a child before these vaccines were available and got every single one of these diseases: measles, rubella, chicken pox, whooping cough. It was awful and I can't believe there are parents that are playing Russian roulette with their children's health by avoiding the vaccine AND feeling proud of themselves for doing so. Personal choice? Civil rights? My ass. Are they insane?
I spent a lot of time during the initial Covid period looking at the issue of vaccines and vaccine mandates (for myself and my union - I'm a delegate in a large government agency). What struck me about vaccine hesitancy/denial was that people were asking the wrong question. The wrong question was "is this vaccine safe". The right question was "is this vaccine safer than not taking the vaccine". And so many of the idiots refusing MMR have not seen how awful measles can be (and what it can do to unborn children), because the vaccine has been very successful. And I suspect they feel that if they get their child vaccinated and there is a bad reaction, it will be their fault, but if they don't, whatever happens isn't their fault, and anyway, it probably won't happen.
But the article prompted me to look at our (New Zealand's) laws. We don't force kids to be vaccinated to go to school. We require that they reveal their vaccination status, and that is recorded by the school. And they can be sent home if there is a disease risk and they aren't vaccinated. So here we are, an incredibly socialist (by your standards) country, taking a far less regulatory approach to the whole business. Of course, being hideously socialist, we make all childhood vaccinations free, even if you are a visitor or asylum seeker (which seems kinder than putting people into concentration camps the way the US does). And a lot of adult ones free as well if you meet the criteria - as an old person I get shingles, flu and Covid free.
And one reason our vaccination rates are lower than they should be is, from my observations, because idiots in your country are peddling their nonsense here. Please get them to stop doing that.
The military. Look to the military. A fair slice of our country will give f-all about our children in the near term.
But when the force has massive outbreaks, disabling illness and even death? Just as bad or way worse than expending all our top shelf weapons. Even if we collectively come out the other side of this, it’ll be an actuarial nightmare for the Pentagon.
If Kegsbreath is dumb enough to try to shove this down the throats of those who really run the Pentagon, he'll have an unfortunate accident on a wet bathroom floor that will leave him brain dead within 24 hours.
George Washington himself said that the mandatory vaccination of his soldiers against smallpox (which he initially opposed) was the single thing most responsible for us winning the Revolution. I'm an ex Army officer myself, and this idiocy will only kill Pete - IF he's dumb or drunk enough to try it.
I was born the year FDR entered the White House. I and my siblings were vaccinated from the outset. When my sister got measles, my brother and I were sent into her room. We all got measles, we werec inoculated, and were measles free ever since.
Bobby Kennedy Jr. is doing as much damage to American health as Trump is doing domestically and globally. They both need a prick of truth serum.
Won't help…..Bobby is a fanantic and I no explanation for Trump….except that his ideologies, such as they seem to be, are scrambled with the need for acceptance, can never be wrong on anything, etc. I suspect he no longer believes in anything that is not laced with him being 100% right on what ever it is.
Yikes is right! This is an epic clustermuck with absolute disregard to the well being of children. But honestly, from this administration I would expect no less. It seems to me they're all like cats that spot the next shiny new toy. Ugh.
Cats are highly intelligent, analytic thinkers, Lori - and they're NOT distracted by shiny new toys: if you've angered a cat, trying to distract him from lecturing you for your malfeasance is pointless. That will work on some dogs, but no cat over the age of six months is that gullible.
This seems to be about eugenics and domination, and plenty of Americans are gleeful of the notion to use their own bodies and their families as guinea pigs.
The sad irony is that the reward of mass vaccinations and a disease free country are a group of decadent idiots who turned to conspiracy theories and diseases out of boredom and a need to think of themselves as special.
Seriously - wouldn't we ALL be better off if Idahoans killed all of their children? It's already an open air psychiatric hospital dominated by paranoid schizophrenics who would prefer to sacrifice their kids rather than admit that they got anything wrong, so I'm totes cool about them choosing to commit suicide.
Hey - every cloud DOES have a silver lining: just make sure we destroy any publicly funded highways entering the joint and let winter and disease do the rest! These clowns all seem to want a return to the 19th century - so let's give them a hand!
I fall in that zone where I probably got the vaccine around the time they changed it. Got titers tested 2 years ago and didn’t have immunity to measles (other 2 ok). Got MMR again…. Of course, that also means I have older folk in my life…. 🤬
Vaccines are one area that should be removed from the SC’s jurisdiction. They are too political to be trusted to rule based on evidence.
I had measles as a child. Nearly everyone got it back then. I do not recommend it. Many children recover just fine, but some do not. Do parents really want to roll the dice on whether their child gets so sick that they need to go to the hospital?
Idaho: the state where the sight of one potential transgender person using a women's bathroom caused all kinds of legislative effort to "protect children," is also the state with the lowest vaccination rates, exposing many children to much worse harm.
MAGA os a death cult, with the billionaires looking to cull the heard, and the heard willingly running up the ramp.
While I can almost grasp anti-vax idiocy, I can't with the vitamin K - babies have bled together as a result?!! It's heartbreaking & mindboggling 💔🤯
"Make Measles Great Again" was literally what I had on my first protest poster of 2025 during the height of the DOGE cuts. I even drew an outline of a person covered with red dots. It was a big hit among the other protesters.
This makes me crazy. I was a child before these vaccines were available and got every single one of these diseases: measles, rubella, chicken pox, whooping cough. It was awful and I can't believe there are parents that are playing Russian roulette with their children's health by avoiding the vaccine AND feeling proud of themselves for doing so. Personal choice? Civil rights? My ass. Are they insane?
Same. Who in the hell would want their child to get measles, mumps, or any of the other illnesses that most of us got back then?
In answer to your last question, quite possibly yes.
I spent a lot of time during the initial Covid period looking at the issue of vaccines and vaccine mandates (for myself and my union - I'm a delegate in a large government agency). What struck me about vaccine hesitancy/denial was that people were asking the wrong question. The wrong question was "is this vaccine safe". The right question was "is this vaccine safer than not taking the vaccine". And so many of the idiots refusing MMR have not seen how awful measles can be (and what it can do to unborn children), because the vaccine has been very successful. And I suspect they feel that if they get their child vaccinated and there is a bad reaction, it will be their fault, but if they don't, whatever happens isn't their fault, and anyway, it probably won't happen.
But the article prompted me to look at our (New Zealand's) laws. We don't force kids to be vaccinated to go to school. We require that they reveal their vaccination status, and that is recorded by the school. And they can be sent home if there is a disease risk and they aren't vaccinated. So here we are, an incredibly socialist (by your standards) country, taking a far less regulatory approach to the whole business. Of course, being hideously socialist, we make all childhood vaccinations free, even if you are a visitor or asylum seeker (which seems kinder than putting people into concentration camps the way the US does). And a lot of adult ones free as well if you meet the criteria - as an old person I get shingles, flu and Covid free.
And one reason our vaccination rates are lower than they should be is, from my observations, because idiots in your country are peddling their nonsense here. Please get them to stop doing that.
The RFK Menace: We're not Anti-Vax .. we are Pro-Natural Selection. https://bsky.app/profile/opsan.com/post/3lxkb7eu55k2r
Some fall into the trap: "RFK once said something sensible, so he must be trustworthy." He did .. but he isn’t.
Anyone who listens or believes anything RFK Junior says, deserves what they got
I’m waiting for smallpox to make a comeback.
The military. Look to the military. A fair slice of our country will give f-all about our children in the near term.
But when the force has massive outbreaks, disabling illness and even death? Just as bad or way worse than expending all our top shelf weapons. Even if we collectively come out the other side of this, it’ll be an actuarial nightmare for the Pentagon.
If Kegsbreath is dumb enough to try to shove this down the throats of those who really run the Pentagon, he'll have an unfortunate accident on a wet bathroom floor that will leave him brain dead within 24 hours.
George Washington himself said that the mandatory vaccination of his soldiers against smallpox (which he initially opposed) was the single thing most responsible for us winning the Revolution. I'm an ex Army officer myself, and this idiocy will only kill Pete - IF he's dumb or drunk enough to try it.
I was born the year FDR entered the White House. I and my siblings were vaccinated from the outset. When my sister got measles, my brother and I were sent into her room. We all got measles, we werec inoculated, and were measles free ever since.
Bobby Kennedy Jr. is doing as much damage to American health as Trump is doing domestically and globally. They both need a prick of truth serum.
Won't help…..Bobby is a fanantic and I no explanation for Trump….except that his ideologies, such as they seem to be, are scrambled with the need for acceptance, can never be wrong on anything, etc. I suspect he no longer believes in anything that is not laced with him being 100% right on what ever it is.
Yikes is right! This is an epic clustermuck with absolute disregard to the well being of children. But honestly, from this administration I would expect no less. It seems to me they're all like cats that spot the next shiny new toy. Ugh.
Cats are highly intelligent, analytic thinkers, Lori - and they're NOT distracted by shiny new toys: if you've angered a cat, trying to distract him from lecturing you for your malfeasance is pointless. That will work on some dogs, but no cat over the age of six months is that gullible.
I stand corrected but I feel like you get my point. It's like anything with a shiny new toy.
😂😂😂😂😂 you know cats well 👍
This seems to be about eugenics and domination, and plenty of Americans are gleeful of the notion to use their own bodies and their families as guinea pigs.
The sad irony is that the reward of mass vaccinations and a disease free country are a group of decadent idiots who turned to conspiracy theories and diseases out of boredom and a need to think of themselves as special.
Sure, but what’s the problem with a few dozen extra dead kids?
But seriously, and pardon my French: Fuck these ghouls.
Seriously - wouldn't we ALL be better off if Idahoans killed all of their children? It's already an open air psychiatric hospital dominated by paranoid schizophrenics who would prefer to sacrifice their kids rather than admit that they got anything wrong, so I'm totes cool about them choosing to commit suicide.
Hey - every cloud DOES have a silver lining: just make sure we destroy any publicly funded highways entering the joint and let winter and disease do the rest! These clowns all seem to want a return to the 19th century - so let's give them a hand!
Totally agree
From 3.6% to 4.2% is a 16% increase.
Check out the new first footnote.