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Megan's avatar

Thank God everyone else can’t stand KJP as much as me.

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Rick R's avatar

The irony of her saying what is wrong with the Democratic party when SHE is exactly what is wrong with the Democratic party. Yes, disenfranchised people need protecting but if you make that your primary focus that's not getting you elected. You can jump up and down talking about it but you'll never be in a position to do anything about it.

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Rebekah Crown's avatar

Hi Tim, love your show and listen every day. I think you do a great job of exploring the politics as well as the bigger picture. I do have a beef after your show with Karine Jean Pierre. Please loosen up on your fixation with Biden’s age being the reason we are where we are. I agree he should not have run but that is not really the problem. The real reason we are here is because a majority of Americans, millions of them, voted to give the power to destroy the whole planet to an individual who is seriously and dangerously mentally ill. His illness and crimes have been out in the open for decades. Why on earth would even one person vote for a candidate who bragged about sexually assaulting women, who is a convicted felon, who says he wants to be a dictator, who says he wants to put troops in the streets? The real question is how has America lost its moral compass, our sense of reality and of what really matters?

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Jim's avatar

Finally got around to listening to this.

KJP should've stayed at MSNBC

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Tyler Morrison's avatar

KJP is so emblematic of why Dems are still on a losing trajectory.

15 min preambles filled with empty platitudes and excuses like “well we didn’t lose as badly as we expected …so win?”

Good Luck America

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Jeff Poché's avatar

Excellent Tim!! Notice when she referenced Kamala, she said "her truth." Twice!! That's a notch above saying she had alternative facts. The pretzel twisting out of these people is breath taking. Until they own it, people will not trust this party. Great episode.

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Ouida Vincent's avatar

My sense was to write and ask that he not have her back as a guest unless she is capable in engaging in a meaning discussion. Like how were Black Women taken for granted, what can the Democratic Party do to listen to its regular constituents and show they are listening. The Biden bashing is a bit silly now because we cannot re-litigate the past as much as we might want to do so. And there are a bazillion books on the subject now. I left the Democratic Party the week after the election because I had never felt so ignored by the political party of my parents and grandparents in my life. I answered the polls, (repeatedly saying that Biden was too old) and sent my money. But I found myself voting for a party that didn’t really act as though we were looking into the existential abyss they claimed we were. A party that told me things were fine when my grocery bill had doubled. A party that ignored credible reports out of Boston and Chicago that communities were angered regarding the influx of immigrants to those areas. As I read reports from Politico, the Boston Globe and other outlets I realized the election was going to go a certain way.

The Democratic Party just didn’t listen to its constituents on anything. Ms Jean-Pierre’s interview was so devoid of substance that I stopped listening with only 6 minutes to go.

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Debra K's avatar

Everyone is beating up on Karine Jean-Pierre for her support of Biden, but there were millions of people who supported Biden’s re-election, even after his neuro episode at the debate. He was a very successful President. He had the most diverse Administration in history. The main people to blame are THE VOTERS! Are there things to learn? Yes. But The Bulwark people have been rabidly anti-Biden in an unhinged way. Tim and Sarah were whining about Biden FOR MONTHS after the election. Tim was not even trying to listen or learn about his guest’s perspective. I did like Tim bringing up how bad the Trump Press Room is now. Quite the contrast.

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Sharon Mudgett's avatar

Great show!

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Ben Furman's avatar

Love Michael Weiss. So very honest and articulate. As for the other guest… nah. It’s not even worth dwelling on.

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Kelly Hughes's avatar

The conversation with Karine Jean-Pierre made me want to bang my head into a wall. I'm still glad you had her on because it's useful for the public to hear from them, but god almighty.

My only critique for Tim is that I wished he had pressed her for specifics on certain things. For example, she mentioned the Democratic party is taking black women for granted. So, I wish Tim had just asked "what should the Democratic party do to make her (and other black women) feel included and empowered?" She was the press secretary and Kamala was VP, so it feels odd to say black women weren't included in positions of power, so are there policy asks? Were they not actually included even if they held those roles? Is there something else?

I also wish he had just said/asked something along the lines of "I know you don't want to marginalize people, but are you concerned, based on polling of where the American public is on some of these issues, that we won't be able to win elections if we don't moderate on these issues." I'm curious if she would have had a real answer for that.

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David Reiley's avatar

Love your two ideas for what Tim could do to improve. Those are both terrific. I especially want to know details about how Karine thinks black women were failing to be heard by Democratic party leaders.

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Leslie Dean's avatar

Same with the banging of the head. I'm not black, so I can't comment on that part. But I am gay. Karine's statement that members of the community feel like they're (we're? I'll admit that I don't feel part of the unwieldy initialism/acronym) "being left out of the process" is not at all the reason for my disenchantment with the Democratic party. I've been tempted to leave the Democratic party for several varied reasons, one of them being frustration with the leaders of the party apparatus—such as Karine Jean-Pierre. That she's written a book with the title "Independent" trips all my brain wires. Good job, Tim, asking her valid questions.

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Mark Nieman's avatar

Loved the conversation with Michael Weiss--he is one of my favorite guests. Knowledgeable and entertaining, just terrific.

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Monica in SoCal's avatar

I wish Michael Weiss had gone last. KJP has left me dispirited and bored. Blah blah blah.

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Trish's avatar

wow, that was hard to listen to. Why can't people just speak plainly instead of all the double talk. Not impressed. And yes, I'm a democrat.

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Prairie Progressive's avatar

KJP sounded like every "enlightened centrists" or "why I left the left" communicator out there. They all say that they felt like the Democrats didn't "earn" their vote, or that they didn't get a personal phone call from the candidate asking for their vote. It all comes off very selfish. "The party needs to work for my vote?" How about the work you need to do as a citizen in a democracy? This isn't WALL-E, democracy isn't going to come to you and ask what you want and then give it to you, while you sit in your hover chair drinking a mojito. You want the Democrats to care more about your key issues? Great. Then it is up to you to make them care. Make calls. Send emails. Canvas. Go to town halls. Join an organization focusing on that issue. Do the work. But saying "in the face of rising authoritarianism, the Democrats ran on my top three issues of affordability, legal immigration and healthcare, but they didn't run on [insert identity labels here] specifically, so I'm going to punish them" is crazy. Hearing these people justify checking out is making me crazy.

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Annette's avatar

“I know that fascism is at the door and people are being kidnapped off American streets by masked, armed federal agents, but the Democrats didn’t come to my house and fold my socks, so I’m gonna check out.” 🤬

Kamala Harris was the presidential nominee and KBJ is on the Supreme Court. Enough with the self-pity from Karine.

I have sponsored three Ukrainian refugee families (with little kids) who face the prospect of returning to a war zone under this cruel administration, which is extorting them for $1,000 per person to be allowed to stay in the U.S. for two more years. I CANNOT with this level of selfishness exhibited in that interview.

Good reporting, Tim.

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Brittany Gordon's avatar

I really don't like replying to comments with such low intellectual heft, BUT Hamas is the governing body of Gaza, governing bodies have the authority to determine their own laws, Gaza is also currently a war zone under military rule. I'm not sure where you are bringing up Trump or Duterte from. Trump is a U.S. president bound by a constitutional legal system, which he is required to comply with. The US constitutional legal system does not permit execution without certain due process protections. Moreover, Trump is not (yet) ordering extrajudicial executions of American citizens or people present in the US, he is ordering the extrajudicial killing of foreigners in international waters, subject to a different legal regime. Similarly, the Philippines also has strong constitutional protections for due process, human rights, and the rule of law, which Duterte is required to uphold. Duterte's regime was also a bit different, as it encouraged vigilantism, as opposed to the State carrying out executions without trial. Finally, neither the US nor the Philippines are an active combat zone where the courts and prisons are non-functional. On top of ALL THAT - Hamas even offered a period of amnesty for those who turned themselves in. The analogy is oversimplified and misleading, because the scale, legality, and context differ enormously.

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