He’d just turn the entire affair into a spectacle. As the adage goes, “Never wrestle with a pig because you'll both get dirty and the pig likes it.”...:)
He’d just turn the entire affair into a spectacle. As the adage goes, “Never wrestle with a pig because you'll both get dirty and the pig likes it.”...:)
I agree. I don't agree with Oberman. Biden is too shrewd to get into this circus. We all know Biden is way smarter than Trump, he does not need to prove it. That will give Trump more limelight and I imagine that Trump will get there, ignore the questions and start spewing nonsense and "the election was stolen" shit.
Maybe you're right, but the sound bites available for Dem campaign ads might just be priceless. What is more likely to happen is Trump would announce 24 hours before the challenge that the tests were unfair and refuse to participate. At that point Biden should declare himself the undisputed champion of the acuity challenge and hold up a big gaudy belt.
How about they both just release their college transcripts first. I heard one of Trump’s college professors say that he graduated in the bottom half of the class. And Trump’s former fixer, Cohen said that Trump forced him to threaten U of Penn, if they released it, because Trump knew it wouldn’t look good for him.
It would be like my talk with a relative who is a flat earther. He engaged me in a discussion because he knows that I am a scientist retired from NASA. I made the mistake of citing satellites and that planets are gloves because it is the most stable form when matter from the big bang condensed. Well, it did not go well. He accused me of being a liar and of having sworn an oath at NASA to lie and say that the earth was a glob while he "knows" it is flat. Sometimes, the best thing is not to engage, especially with the brain dead MAGAS.
I often interact with MAGAs on social media to counter the rightwing propaganda they regularly consume, although I know I am hitting my head against a brick wall. When I present facts and evidence that refutes some lie or conspiracy theory they are posting or sharing, the common responses are that 1) I am a communist, 2) brainwashed by CNN, or 3) that whatever sources I used (Wash Post, NY Times, PolitiFact, the Atlantic, NASA, etc.) are leftist/liberal and not credible.
Beverly - your comment struck a chord with me, I have to share this with you. I often do the same on Xitter, trying to have civil-ish dialogue with (relatively) reasonable MAGAs I happen to encounter. Call it a sociology experiment. My wife calls it something else.
Inevitably I get the same dismissive and/or insulting responses that you do. Occasionally I persist for sport, and keep it civil and fact-based (it ain't easy) even after the dismissive/ignorant response(s). After a few more exchanges, with me neither insulting them in return nor letting go of the point at hand, I try to respond again ... and find myself blocked.
They seem to reach a point where insults don't end the discussion, and the facts and civility keep coming, so they just pull the plug. It happens more often than not in those situations. I find it funny/curious, for what it's worth. Blow on them long enough and they fall over!
And never, never, never have any of them conceded anything ("hey, good point, now that you put it that way"). Easier to run away.
Yes, I have also encountered the cut off response, but more often they tell me to go away, or they tell me that I am suffering from TDS - that's one of their favorite comebacks. If you are always able to remain polite, you're a finer person than me Mike! I began with all good intentions to be always civil, polite, and kind - and as Michelle Obama once said, "to go high when they go low." Alas, I am also not so fine or disciplined a person as MO either - and I had no idea how really low so many of them will go. There came a point when I began to be so frustrated and disgusted with their smug condescension and insults coupled with of willful ignorance, bigotry, racism and even viciousness that too often now I do become rude in return. I think those of us who try to interact with them on any regular basis probably could use a support group to help us deal with the feelings they provoke.
I too have been regularly diagnosed with TDS. LOL, sign me up for that support group.
I’ll confess that for every one of my polite interactions, there’s at least a couple that aren’t so polite. Most of the social media MAGAs and trolls are not worth the effort of civility.
And don't forget that if you cite some authority figure that agrees with your claim, the Trumplicant response is that they are certainly "members of the Deep State".
That makes sense. However, why would Biden want to do that? He is governing. He does not need to get into this. If he did, then the Magas would say that his transcripts were doctored by the deep state.
He’d just turn the entire affair into a spectacle. As the adage goes, “Never wrestle with a pig because you'll both get dirty and the pig likes it.”...:)
I agree. I don't agree with Oberman. Biden is too shrewd to get into this circus. We all know Biden is way smarter than Trump, he does not need to prove it. That will give Trump more limelight and I imagine that Trump will get there, ignore the questions and start spewing nonsense and "the election was stolen" shit.
Well said…:)
Maybe you're right, but the sound bites available for Dem campaign ads might just be priceless. What is more likely to happen is Trump would announce 24 hours before the challenge that the tests were unfair and refuse to participate. At that point Biden should declare himself the undisputed champion of the acuity challenge and hold up a big gaudy belt.
How about they both just release their college transcripts first. I heard one of Trump’s college professors say that he graduated in the bottom half of the class. And Trump’s former fixer, Cohen said that Trump forced him to threaten U of Penn, if they released it, because Trump knew it wouldn’t look good for him.
His sister said that Trump paid someone to take his SAT exam for him.
It would be like my talk with a relative who is a flat earther. He engaged me in a discussion because he knows that I am a scientist retired from NASA. I made the mistake of citing satellites and that planets are gloves because it is the most stable form when matter from the big bang condensed. Well, it did not go well. He accused me of being a liar and of having sworn an oath at NASA to lie and say that the earth was a glob while he "knows" it is flat. Sometimes, the best thing is not to engage, especially with the brain dead MAGAS.
Wow! That is interesting. Both being a scientist for NASA, and having a relative whose a flat earth-er.
You must have some incredible stories to tell; about both I’m sure....:)
Now we’re beholden to the likes of a mad--(I wouldn’t call him a scientist), Musk, whose definitely is mad and nuts.
I guess Musk must have taken it personally when someone suggested he’s out of this world...:)
It's pretty much pointless, like trying to teach pigs to sing. It's doomed to failure and it just annoys the pigs.
But the point is to annoy the teachers more.
I often interact with MAGAs on social media to counter the rightwing propaganda they regularly consume, although I know I am hitting my head against a brick wall. When I present facts and evidence that refutes some lie or conspiracy theory they are posting or sharing, the common responses are that 1) I am a communist, 2) brainwashed by CNN, or 3) that whatever sources I used (Wash Post, NY Times, PolitiFact, the Atlantic, NASA, etc.) are leftist/liberal and not credible.
Beverly - your comment struck a chord with me, I have to share this with you. I often do the same on Xitter, trying to have civil-ish dialogue with (relatively) reasonable MAGAs I happen to encounter. Call it a sociology experiment. My wife calls it something else.
Inevitably I get the same dismissive and/or insulting responses that you do. Occasionally I persist for sport, and keep it civil and fact-based (it ain't easy) even after the dismissive/ignorant response(s). After a few more exchanges, with me neither insulting them in return nor letting go of the point at hand, I try to respond again ... and find myself blocked.
They seem to reach a point where insults don't end the discussion, and the facts and civility keep coming, so they just pull the plug. It happens more often than not in those situations. I find it funny/curious, for what it's worth. Blow on them long enough and they fall over!
And never, never, never have any of them conceded anything ("hey, good point, now that you put it that way"). Easier to run away.
Yes, I have also encountered the cut off response, but more often they tell me to go away, or they tell me that I am suffering from TDS - that's one of their favorite comebacks. If you are always able to remain polite, you're a finer person than me Mike! I began with all good intentions to be always civil, polite, and kind - and as Michelle Obama once said, "to go high when they go low." Alas, I am also not so fine or disciplined a person as MO either - and I had no idea how really low so many of them will go. There came a point when I began to be so frustrated and disgusted with their smug condescension and insults coupled with of willful ignorance, bigotry, racism and even viciousness that too often now I do become rude in return. I think those of us who try to interact with them on any regular basis probably could use a support group to help us deal with the feelings they provoke.
I too have been regularly diagnosed with TDS. LOL, sign me up for that support group.
I’ll confess that for every one of my polite interactions, there’s at least a couple that aren’t so polite. Most of the social media MAGAs and trolls are not worth the effort of civility.
And don't forget that if you cite some authority figure that agrees with your claim, the Trumplicant response is that they are certainly "members of the Deep State".
I have tried, irrationally it would seem, to believe that such people aren't really serious. Your story is making it harder to do so.
That makes sense. However, why would Biden want to do that? He is governing. He does not need to get into this. If he did, then the Magas would say that his transcripts were doctored by the deep state.
Very true..:)
Which is stupid because his illiterate fans would consider ignorance a badge if honor. They don't need no book learnin.
Daddy Drumpf, in essence, bought li'l Donnie's diploma for him. His "Cs" weren't even "gentlemen's;" they were, plain and simple, bought and paid for.