I grew up across from a wildlife refuge, and most of my neighbors had at least a shotgun, because there were multiple animals within a mile that could kill and/or eat you. For a while in college, I'd go recreational skeet shooting, and was decent. Never really cared for gun ranges. Lately, I've found myself oddly offended by the alt-righ…
I grew up across from a wildlife refuge, and most of my neighbors had at least a shotgun, because there were multiple animals within a mile that could kill and/or eat you. For a while in college, I'd go recreational skeet shooting, and was decent. Never really cared for gun ranges.
Lately, I've found myself oddly offended by the alt-right notion that I'm a sitting duck in their desired "civil war". I don't own a gun right now, and don't want to. But I could buy one off Amazon! I could drive 10 minutes in any direction from my house and buy a gun! Just because I listen to folk music and grow a pollinator garden doesn't mean I wouldn't shoot back! These army cosplayers honestly think that "the left" is so group-thinkish and sheeplike, that they would roll over and die in the face of an assault. I find that idea tragically comical.
Adam Kinzinger said it best about the "civil war" scenario, "Casually thrown around by those who never experienced war. Heart medicine won’t be available at Walgreens and half the “play army” folks will be dead in weeks."
Think what you want about fighting back, but I suggest you review Chile, 1973, when Pinochet’s right wing authoritarians seized power and rounded up and killed hundreds of thousands of leftists. The military used to delight in pushing them out of helicopters over the ocean.
Our side has the tanks. Biden isn’t Pinochet. The insurrectionists are stupid and weak. Bandying about “civil war” shows that they have no understanding of the history of this nation that they claim they love so much.
A vote is one thing, what people will do when the shit really goes down is something else--especially in a confused and uncertain situation.
I am a military veteran, I know what type of people tend to serve (or did when I was in) and I am fairly sure they probably haven't changed that much.
If the situation is clear-cut, there probably isn't any real danger--but if you have a contested "fraudulent" election, that is backed by a GoP controlled House and given a whitewash by SCotUS, I tend to think all bets are off. It will depend upon much much of the leadership decides which side is the "legitimate" government... and it won't be just the generals deciding.. or if they even take sides at all, given the reluctance to get involved in domestic politics.
Don't count on the military to save our asses, save our own asses before the military has to get involved by making sure these people don't have a chance to pull that stuff.
I didn't mean to Romanticize the notion of "fighting back". I think invariably it would be horrible. I'm just saying that the idea that people would roll over and accept some sort of nominally-Christian, white-nationalist, might=right rule from the Alt-right is naïve.
I grew up across from a wildlife refuge, and most of my neighbors had at least a shotgun, because there were multiple animals within a mile that could kill and/or eat you. For a while in college, I'd go recreational skeet shooting, and was decent. Never really cared for gun ranges.
Lately, I've found myself oddly offended by the alt-right notion that I'm a sitting duck in their desired "civil war". I don't own a gun right now, and don't want to. But I could buy one off Amazon! I could drive 10 minutes in any direction from my house and buy a gun! Just because I listen to folk music and grow a pollinator garden doesn't mean I wouldn't shoot back! These army cosplayers honestly think that "the left" is so group-thinkish and sheeplike, that they would roll over and die in the face of an assault. I find that idea tragically comical.
Adam Kinzinger said it best about the "civil war" scenario, "Casually thrown around by those who never experienced war. Heart medicine won’t be available at Walgreens and half the “play army” folks will be dead in weeks."
Think what you want about fighting back, but I suggest you review Chile, 1973, when Pinochet’s right wing authoritarians seized power and rounded up and killed hundreds of thousands of leftists. The military used to delight in pushing them out of helicopters over the ocean.
Our side has the tanks. Biden isn’t Pinochet. The insurrectionists are stupid and weak. Bandying about “civil war” shows that they have no understanding of the history of this nation that they claim they love so much.
A lot of the guys driving the tanks are far more Rightist than is probably good for the country... as are a surprising number of the brass.
Don't count on them too much, especially if the Media does their usual fine job and SCotUS decides to back a soft coup, because it is "legal."
Now we've pivoted from Pinochet to Tiananmen square. Is 12:30 too early for a beer?
I've been in more than one bar and home rec room/man cave with a clock on the wall where all 12 of the hour spaces are "5."
It's always happy hour somewhere.
Most of them voted Biden.
A vote is one thing, what people will do when the shit really goes down is something else--especially in a confused and uncertain situation.
I am a military veteran, I know what type of people tend to serve (or did when I was in) and I am fairly sure they probably haven't changed that much.
If the situation is clear-cut, there probably isn't any real danger--but if you have a contested "fraudulent" election, that is backed by a GoP controlled House and given a whitewash by SCotUS, I tend to think all bets are off. It will depend upon much much of the leadership decides which side is the "legitimate" government... and it won't be just the generals deciding.. or if they even take sides at all, given the reluctance to get involved in domestic politics.
Don't count on the military to save our asses, save our own asses before the military has to get involved by making sure these people don't have a chance to pull that stuff.
I didn't mean to Romanticize the notion of "fighting back". I think invariably it would be horrible. I'm just saying that the idea that people would roll over and accept some sort of nominally-Christian, white-nationalist, might=right rule from the Alt-right is naïve.