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Angela Hock's avatar

JVL, how do you know that there are fervid MAGA who really deeply don’t like Israel?

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Don Gates's avatar

There are a lot of antisemites, Nick Fuentes and Kanye West types, in MAGA. There are a lot of conspiracy theorists in MAGA, too, and it seems like if you dig deep enough into any conspiracy theory, you'll find the Jews. And folks who hate Jews are going to hate Israel, too.

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Parrhizzia's avatar

The right is mostly anti-semitic Zionists.

The left is mostly anti-Zionist, but who love the Jews.

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Parrhizzia's avatar

Correct.

It is deeply antisemitic to hide the crimes of Zionism behind Judaism.

Not all Jews and Zionists, and most Zionists are not Jews: they’re Christians who want to see the destruction of Judaism so that Jesus can return.

The most dangerous Zionists, like Biden, are not Jewish.

In short, I have seen no evidence that Zionism is compatible with the tenets of Judaism.

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Angela Hock's avatar

I get that about the conspiracies that so often devolve to Jews. Stupid but incredibly dangerous stuff. But I’m still curious what Jonathan knows personally about MAGAites that are very much against what Trump is doing as far as bombing Iran. And for the record, I stand against violence against Jews and pretty much anyone else, and that includes believers not being against the Israeli government’s war against Palestinians. That has nothing to do with how I feel about Jews and everything to do with my opposition to a government’s decision or action.

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Smike's avatar

Yeah I think this is really true to an extent I didn’t realize when I was younger. If someone believes one conspiracy theory they are more likely to believe others if you look at peer reviews studies. And out of all the hatred’s in the world western antisemitism is pretty unique because it’s seemingly ALWAYS got conspiracies theory elements to it. The Jews are always doing…. Something behind the scenes; or so think the looney tunes brigade

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Angela Hock's avatar

Umm hmmm for sure

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