Obama successfully negotiated an agreement with Iran that delayed its nuclear weapons program significantly. Trump burned that agreement, saying he would do much better. Of course he failed. This made him look inferior to Obama. That was the real crisis, and it had to be resolved by any means necessary ....
Obama successfully negotiated an agreement with Iran that delayed its nuclear weapons program significantly. Trump burned that agreement, saying he would do much better. Of course he failed. This made him look inferior to Obama. That was the real crisis, and it had to be resolved by any means necessary ....
From Power is not the answer to all problems. But neither is restraint. If you have the power to prevent the worldтАЩs biggest exporter of terrorism from developing nuclear immunity yet fail to use it, then disarm, embrace pacifism, and prepare to suffer the consequences.
To those who blame President Trump for abandoning the JCPOA, Barack ObamaтАЩs deal with Iran, consider this: Had the JCPOA still been in effect, its тАЬsunset clause,тАЭ allowing Iran to produce advanced centrifuges capable of enriching uranium to weapons grade level in a matter of weeks, would be coming into effect around now. At the same time, the JCPOA would have permitted Iran to continue developing nuclear warheads and delivery systems.
And had the economic sanctions ended, Iran would have benefited from a massive infusion of funds, immensely strengthening the regime and its terror proxies. Iran would have become the regional power in the Arab world; a nuclear Iran would have been virtually unstoppable.
For the last 40 years, the Iranian regime has consistently expressed, in rhetoric and policy, its intention to destroy the Jewish state. Yet the international community took those threats and actions in stride. There has been little or no outrage from governments, human rights organizations, or religious leaders at the genocidal threat aimed at Israel. Most of all, the UN accepted as a given the violation of its own charter, which states that a member state may not threaten the existence of another. The moral burden for the current crisis is not on Israel but the world.
The only other alternative at the time was Iran getting nuclear weapons right away. Or, of course, war. The agreement easily could have led other successful diplomacy, and to an extension or another, similar agreement -- that's the norm.
wrong. Max pressure campaign like we saw in Trump 1.0 to get a better deal. That was the alternataive not tried because Obama and Kerry are bad negotiators who don't understand the Middle East and were too eager for a deal...any deal. So the Iranians gave them a bad deal. But even if you believe the JCPOA was the best deal ever, the end was always going to be what Trump just did because even if the JCPOA had been followed, Iran would be on the brink of the bomb today. So love the JCPOA if you like but you can't love it with any consisitent logic and then decry what just happened. I don't like Trump and wish it had been a different President that gets to claim the credit but it is what it is.
Your entire schtick since IsraelтАЩs initial strikes has been hyperbolic. The idea that withdrawing from the JCPOA 8 years ago to conduct these strikes now is asinine. And you keep dodging the question, when are YOU heading down to enlist? Or conversely, where the fuck were YOU between 2001 and 2021?
Obama successfully negotiated an agreement with Iran that delayed its nuclear weapons program significantly. Trump burned that agreement, saying he would do much better. Of course he failed. This made him look inferior to Obama. That was the real crisis, and it had to be resolved by any means necessary ....
Obama negotiated an agreement that provided Iran with a pathway to the bomb. A delayed pathway but one that would be coming to fruition now.
From Yossi Klein Halevi
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/this-had-to-be-done/
From Power is not the answer to all problems. But neither is restraint. If you have the power to prevent the worldтАЩs biggest exporter of terrorism from developing nuclear immunity yet fail to use it, then disarm, embrace pacifism, and prepare to suffer the consequences.
To those who blame President Trump for abandoning the JCPOA, Barack ObamaтАЩs deal with Iran, consider this: Had the JCPOA still been in effect, its тАЬsunset clause,тАЭ allowing Iran to produce advanced centrifuges capable of enriching uranium to weapons grade level in a matter of weeks, would be coming into effect around now. At the same time, the JCPOA would have permitted Iran to continue developing nuclear warheads and delivery systems.
And had the economic sanctions ended, Iran would have benefited from a massive infusion of funds, immensely strengthening the regime and its terror proxies. Iran would have become the regional power in the Arab world; a nuclear Iran would have been virtually unstoppable.
For the last 40 years, the Iranian regime has consistently expressed, in rhetoric and policy, its intention to destroy the Jewish state. Yet the international community took those threats and actions in stride. There has been little or no outrage from governments, human rights organizations, or religious leaders at the genocidal threat aimed at Israel. Most of all, the UN accepted as a given the violation of its own charter, which states that a member state may not threaten the existence of another. The moral burden for the current crisis is not on Israel but the world.
The only other alternative at the time was Iran getting nuclear weapons right away. Or, of course, war. The agreement easily could have led other successful diplomacy, and to an extension or another, similar agreement -- that's the norm.
wrong. Max pressure campaign like we saw in Trump 1.0 to get a better deal. That was the alternataive not tried because Obama and Kerry are bad negotiators who don't understand the Middle East and were too eager for a deal...any deal. So the Iranians gave them a bad deal. But even if you believe the JCPOA was the best deal ever, the end was always going to be what Trump just did because even if the JCPOA had been followed, Iran would be on the brink of the bomb today. So love the JCPOA if you like but you can't love it with any consisitent logic and then decry what just happened. I don't like Trump and wish it had been a different President that gets to claim the credit but it is what it is.
You think I'm wrong and I think you're wrong ... so we agree to disagree.
True except I have facts and logic and you have wishful thinking.
No, you have hyperbole. But IтАЩm sure youтАЩre racing down to the recruitment center. Just like you did in 2003z
What is hyperbole? Which part?
Your entire schtick since IsraelтАЩs initial strikes has been hyperbolic. The idea that withdrawing from the JCPOA 8 years ago to conduct these strikes now is asinine. And you keep dodging the question, when are YOU heading down to enlist? Or conversely, where the fuck were YOU between 2001 and 2021?
So you have no argument, just personal attacks. Thank you for the demonstration.
All you have is emotional manipulation and fear mongering. Your response wasnтАЩt worthy of anything else.
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