“Murdering civilians”. Direct quote of Sarah Longwell. Who is murdering civilianas? The US military or the Israelie Joooz! Despicable comment either way
I think it’s really hard to see this as worth it unless the Iranian nuclear program is kaput, which no credible Iran security expert seems to think is probable.
Even delay just creates the long term incentive for proliferation and, probably, cooperation across America’s enemies even where they otherwise have disparate — or even contrary — wants. Needs to be more conversations writ large zooming out from Iran to Iran, Russia, and China.
TFG pretty much got double dog dared to jump in on the behalf of Bibi. I am pretty sure the long red tie guy would not have attacked Iran in the manner that Israel did and probably doesn’t have a staff competent enough to plan and pull it off. The time of reckoning with some in his thrall might be when our soldiers are sent to the Middle East to support his decision.
Folks, is it at all possible that someone might do a pod analyzing our new war with Iran in the historical context of how our relationship with Iran has evolved since the coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh that we and the UK orchestrated in 1953? Going on and on about how evil the current regime is ignores our role in bringing that regime to power. We've seen this movie before.
"is it at all possible that someone might do a pod analyzing our new war with Iran in the historical context of how our relationship with Iran has evolved since the coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh that we and the UK orchestrated in 1953?"
Not on the Bulwark. For The Bulwark, Iranian history only began in 1979, just like Cuban history only began in 1959 or in 1949 for China.
Nothing happened in those countries before that time that could ever justify, even the slightest, the revolutions to displace right-wing tyrant dictators.
(And just like nothing ever happened in Gaza before Oct 7, 2023).
This administration has gutted civil service, fired or defunded critical operations, and is obsessed with immigration. I don’t trust them at all to keep us safe from an Iranian terror reprisal on US soil. It’s a threat even when an administration doesn’t have village idiots making the decisions.
I’d be more sympathetic to the neocon argument that this could be a good thing if the other wars led to good things. Didn’t Trump just hand Afghanistan back to the Taliban? Didn’t the Iraq war create Isis? I was 16 years old when 9/11 happened and the same bullshit excuses keep coming up. Maybe America isn’t that good at this??? Trillions of dollars wasted but yeah, student loan forgiveness or Universal Healthcare are SO SOCIALIST AND CRAZY. George Carlin, you are missed although you’re probably happy you’re dead so you don’t have to witness all this again. https://youtu.be/XLsIYl7K4gQ
Thank you, Sarah for calling out the murder of the civilians in Gaza. Thank you, Bulwark for seeing Bibi as the Trump of Israel who is also an authoritarian and corrupt.
“Murdering civilians”. Direct quote of Sarah Longwell. Who is murdering civilianas? The US military or the Israelie Joooz! Despicable comment either way
I lol’d hard at Sarah’s delayed “Shut up, JVL.”
I think it’s really hard to see this as worth it unless the Iranian nuclear program is kaput, which no credible Iran security expert seems to think is probable.
Even delay just creates the long term incentive for proliferation and, probably, cooperation across America’s enemies even where they otherwise have disparate — or even contrary — wants. Needs to be more conversations writ large zooming out from Iran to Iran, Russia, and China.
TFG pretty much got double dog dared to jump in on the behalf of Bibi. I am pretty sure the long red tie guy would not have attacked Iran in the manner that Israel did and probably doesn’t have a staff competent enough to plan and pull it off. The time of reckoning with some in his thrall might be when our soldiers are sent to the Middle East to support his decision.
Was there any radioactivity found after the bombing?
Sarah mentioning Gaza and bringing up Netanyahu’s past threat is awesome.
Awww, lookit the little red ties! I bet there's no tariff on dog treats. Good boys!
I agree with Sarah.
I agree with Tim. “How is this our f’cking life?”
How?
77 years of unlimited, unconditional support for a foreign, violent, religious ethnostate and 44 years of domestic neoconservatism.
Trump gave Iran plenty of notice to remove everything from those 3 facilities
Folks, is it at all possible that someone might do a pod analyzing our new war with Iran in the historical context of how our relationship with Iran has evolved since the coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh that we and the UK orchestrated in 1953? Going on and on about how evil the current regime is ignores our role in bringing that regime to power. We've seen this movie before.
"is it at all possible that someone might do a pod analyzing our new war with Iran in the historical context of how our relationship with Iran has evolved since the coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh that we and the UK orchestrated in 1953?"
Not on the Bulwark. For The Bulwark, Iranian history only began in 1979, just like Cuban history only began in 1959 or in 1949 for China.
Nothing happened in those countries before that time that could ever justify, even the slightest, the revolutions to displace right-wing tyrant dictators.
(And just like nothing ever happened in Gaza before Oct 7, 2023).
The Boomers are trying to do whatever they can to preserve their bullsh*t legacy which amounts to a big fat nothing:
Trump – 79
Netanyahu – 75
Putin – 72
Khamenei – 86
David Hogg was right, get all these Boomer Losers out of office! As a generation they would rather set the world on fire than pass the torch.
This administration has gutted civil service, fired or defunded critical operations, and is obsessed with immigration. I don’t trust them at all to keep us safe from an Iranian terror reprisal on US soil. It’s a threat even when an administration doesn’t have village idiots making the decisions.
I’d be more sympathetic to the neocon argument that this could be a good thing if the other wars led to good things. Didn’t Trump just hand Afghanistan back to the Taliban? Didn’t the Iraq war create Isis? I was 16 years old when 9/11 happened and the same bullshit excuses keep coming up. Maybe America isn’t that good at this??? Trillions of dollars wasted but yeah, student loan forgiveness or Universal Healthcare are SO SOCIALIST AND CRAZY. George Carlin, you are missed although you’re probably happy you’re dead so you don’t have to witness all this again. https://youtu.be/XLsIYl7K4gQ
Agree 100%! I am sick of this tired playbook justifying our violent meddling.
Trump’s public statements are completely untrustworthy, he feels no value in being honest with us, and this is at the center of his way of governing.
Thank you, Sarah for calling out the murder of the civilians in Gaza. Thank you, Bulwark for seeing Bibi as the Trump of Israel who is also an authoritarian and corrupt.
Let Sarah speak!
I felt they talked over her on this segment.