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Kim M Murphy's avatar

“Besides he’s had a great presidency?”

That’s more than enough for me.

Additionally, Trump lost voters last night. He was awful. There are people who watched that last night who said, “Oh yeah, I hate this f*cker.” In instant polls he dropped like a stone with his abortion, Jan 6, and “free and fair election” responses. I guarantee you that last night was his best and it was like an abattoir. Because he’s a psycho liar.

Let’s wait a week to see if last night moved the needle with swing voters. I watched his rally. My bet is everybody will be so hopped up on Monday’s immunity ruling that this conversation will have receded considerably.

I’m a Democrat, not an NT. My loyalty is to Democratic presidents.

There’s nobody in the alleged “bench” who has been vetted and has national name recognition except Pete and he’s occupied.

If POTUS ever steps away from the race I’d throw my support and money and love and energy behind Candidate X but only Biden can beat Trump. They poll even head to head in binary polls. The VP is out of the question. We can’t get a white woman elected here. Misogyny and racism won’t allow the VP to win.

So that’s why.

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Troy Lee's avatar

Having had a great presidency is not enough. If it were, Biden would be destroying Trump in the polls. But he is losing. To turn the tide, we need to persuade undecided voters that it's been a great presidency and that Trump is not an option, but Biden doesn't have what it takes to do that any more.

Gavin Newsom has been auditioning for the past 3 years, and he's been very good. Gretchen Whitmer is governor of a state Democrats must win, and she will likely have appeal in nearby states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Or Josh Shapiro if we can't get a qualified woman without baggage elected.

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

And Whitmer has 12% name recognition and Shapiro is Jewish. You think a Jew is getting elected right now?

And I’m a Jew, so you don’t need to be offended on his behalf.

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Troy Lee's avatar

There is no way that Newsom would not step up if Biden agreed to step aside.

Whitmer won Michigan. Michigan is between Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. If the Democrat wins those 3 states and Nebraska 2, then Trump is defeated forever.

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Dan Angell's avatar

Newsom isn’t stupid. He knows that would be a political death sentence for him.

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