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Angie's avatar

Deabting even listening this time, be the first one I ever missed...but, going by what all the other stuff that has been said on various places, I am sure it will just upset me big time...

I will keep thinking about it, but, I just know it will upset me even more than last night did

And I love you guys to death, but, I just don't don't agree with you on this, and I also think it is near impossible to replace him for many reasons. And it saddens me you think it is reasonable.

I also think we need wait before we do anything drastic ( or the people that count should, I and no one here can control what happens next.

What a horrible day.

I hate to lose being here and listening to you guys but I have to think about my emotional health too.

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Pat Dumond's avatar

I'm with you. I'm skipping today's pod. I'd be thinking bad things about people I've come to respect and truly care about. My Republican sister and brother-in-law were bending over backwards to be kind to me today. Finally, after dinner I told them, "I'm not saying another word about politics today." I thanked Al for always listening to me and never giving me a hard time. He said "Patty, when I disagree with you, you'll know it." So, there's that, at least. When we took the dishes in the kitchen my sister whispered in my ear, "I think Trump has been hanging out with Leland." Leland is a demon trying to bring the AntiChrist into the world in the dark comedy "Evil" on Paramount Plus. So, there are 2 more Republicans who won't be voting for Trump, at least.

I don't agree that President Biden needs to step down. He had a bad night in a debate. I've been watching them since I was 11 and someone always has a bad night. Many of them went on to win. The shame here is not on Joe Biden, but Donald Trump and the moderators. Most days I can't see how Trump can be beaten, but I thought that in 2020 too. Hopefully, in a few days I'll be able to come back here to listen to what JVL, Sarah, and Tim had to say tonight.

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Angie's avatar

Yeah, I decided I would just let it sit there till things calm down and I am not so on edge.

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Jeanean Slamen's avatar

I have avoided media today because I did not want to become alienated from those who are weakly affiliated with my Democratic party. That’s why I’m sitting here reading comments instead of directly consuming Bulwark content.

Thank you for your thoughtful comment. It mirrors my reactions, too.

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Angie's avatar

You are more than welcome..I am thinking/hoping after a couple of days the emotions on both sides of the issue will calm down.

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Aaron Clow's avatar

I think a few days from now, nothing will have changed. Just watch. That was the take of most of the focus groups last night. The race is a convicted felon liar who couldn't answer direct policy questions vs. an elderly man in decline who stutters but whose administration is capably running the nation. Shocker, we all knew that.

This was just a badly needed wakeup call to the campaign. We should be grateful they got it early. They need to get today's North Carolina Joe Biden out in public, and fast.

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Almut | The Weary Pilgrim's avatar

I agree with you. People should wait. Usually debates don’t effect much and as it has been so early in cycle much less people watched than in 2020. That was probably the plan of the Biden camp to check it out may be. He was apparently much more alive today at a rally and as a said elsewhere, the statistic advantage is on the incumbent even if he must be carried to the podium.

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Angie's avatar

It also appears they are raking in money now too

And the all the suggested replacements have all said they are for Joe and they aren't going to challenge him

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