What is the cost to the US if Ebola becomes an epidemic in the US? I'd guess it's in the tens of Trillions. What is the cost to the US if the screw worm is actually established in herds of beef and dairy cattle in Texas (and elsewhere)? Probably at at least a noticeable fraction of a trillion. In both case there were programs that were designed to head off these threats but the Trump administration took out these cheap programs to save maybe a few million. If considered as insurance programs any sane person would have said "it's worth keeping them" but ideologues didn't weigh anything, they just cut. Maybe the US empire deserves to die after 250 years because it is too stupid to survive because competence isn't even on the scale any more. Only loyalty.
Normally when you have a show that mints money year after year you'd be an idiot to try to change it unless there something more important than money. For corporations there is never anything more important than money so the question is, what is more important than the money 60 Minutes generates like a golden goose? The answer is a higher-level of money of the sort that happens when one company takes over another. With the current administration that means to get approval you must give Trump something. The "something" in this case is getting rid of critics or potential critics. The immediate case is 60 Minutes, the upcoming case is the takeover of CNN which has been on Trump's "fake news" hit list for years. 60 Minutes is the down payment on the promise that CNN will be neutered completely.
We are living in this upside down precisely because we couldn't, even in our worst nightmares, imagine what Trump and his acolytes are doing daily... hourly... minutely.
That's the reason the word "unprecedented" gets tossed around so much and is starting to lose all meaning.
late night shows say true things out loud to people who already agree, and know.
our facebook silo is full up with people who say true things out loud in clever ways.
how does this pattern get across the great divide? did they even see any of iran's lego movies?
do we need country songs (like "who's going to build your wall?")? billboards? flags attached to pickup trucks? full text on rolling papers and toilet paper? burma shave style road signs? what?
Wow, JVL said it like it is. Period. We all need to do important things every day to stop this insanity in OUR COUNTRY. OUR Country. Make a 7 day a week chart and do something every day of that week to stop this Monster. Every-Single -Day.
I get it sort of but really I don’t think 60 Minutes or any news outlet on broadcast or cable TV has been an institution of journalism for a generation now so I just don’t think any of this is so important. There are always corporate overlords and the lack of such is what makes The Bulwark and similar outlets different.
I've thought about this some and I can't endorse JVL's take on this.
I don't know how the journalism industry works internally, but in businesses I've been involved with, this kind of thing achieves exactly nothing.
I've seen guys blow stuff up on the way out the door, serve up people they perceived as not supportive, send the flaming email wishing everyone on the Titanic well. Seen it all.
The guy leaves. He can't come back. Everyone still there talks about the spectacular flame-out over lunch. Then they go back to work. The boss is still in place. Stuff goes along.
In every case I know of, things just went forward. The company didn't fail. Earnings were released. Captain Flame-Out was forgotten or only brought up by old timers as an example of a spectacular flame-out.
I've run into a few of these guys later. Ask how he's doing. He's working for some other company, doing pretty much the same thing. The new company is, go figure, screwed up. His boss is a jackass. He's thinking about leaving.
If Pelley didn't like what was going on -- and he has plenty of reason to think that -- it'd be better to just line something else up and go there. No need for fireworks. He's the story for 24 hours among people who care about the internal workings of 60 Minutes, a population measured in hundreds, I'm guessing. Go to that other place and make it rain. Maybe bring some others along.
I get your point. But this is 60 Minutes. It has a unique reputation on TV News. One that was built over decades by Pelley and others. And part of that was no interfearance from corporate, but for that famous tobacco incident.
Palley is 68. I doubt he's planning on another job. He made his very public point that this cabal was plotting to destroy this institution. He probably hopes exposing it may force them to pause long enough for it to be saved.
Bari wants more views on digital? I believe the core audience for 60 Minutes is, on average, Medicare-eligible. Girl, they aren't watching on digital. It's appointment TV for your core demographic. Know your product.
All those people who didn't say anything...what exactly did they have to lose; what exactly did they have to fear?
What is the cost to the US if Ebola becomes an epidemic in the US? I'd guess it's in the tens of Trillions. What is the cost to the US if the screw worm is actually established in herds of beef and dairy cattle in Texas (and elsewhere)? Probably at at least a noticeable fraction of a trillion. In both case there were programs that were designed to head off these threats but the Trump administration took out these cheap programs to save maybe a few million. If considered as insurance programs any sane person would have said "it's worth keeping them" but ideologues didn't weigh anything, they just cut. Maybe the US empire deserves to die after 250 years because it is too stupid to survive because competence isn't even on the scale any more. Only loyalty.
Normally when you have a show that mints money year after year you'd be an idiot to try to change it unless there something more important than money. For corporations there is never anything more important than money so the question is, what is more important than the money 60 Minutes generates like a golden goose? The answer is a higher-level of money of the sort that happens when one company takes over another. With the current administration that means to get approval you must give Trump something. The "something" in this case is getting rid of critics or potential critics. The immediate case is 60 Minutes, the upcoming case is the takeover of CNN which has been on Trump's "fake news" hit list for years. 60 Minutes is the down payment on the promise that CNN will be neutered completely.
He will be missed. Please keep speaking out.
Can this link get posted to Twitter with a tease to get it opened by those who need to see it? I do not have an X account.
OMG, did JVL say "we're going to win"?!
"Authoritarianism exploits politesse."
And don't forget, even MORE importantly:
Authoritarianism exploits failure of imagination.
We are living in this upside down precisely because we couldn't, even in our worst nightmares, imagine what Trump and his acolytes are doing daily... hourly... minutely.
That's the reason the word "unprecedented" gets tossed around so much and is starting to lose all meaning.
you've nailed the pattern.
late night shows say true things out loud to people who already agree, and know.
our facebook silo is full up with people who say true things out loud in clever ways.
how does this pattern get across the great divide? did they even see any of iran's lego movies?
do we need country songs (like "who's going to build your wall?")? billboards? flags attached to pickup trucks? full text on rolling papers and toilet paper? burma shave style road signs? what?
Wow, JVL said it like it is. Period. We all need to do important things every day to stop this insanity in OUR COUNTRY. OUR Country. Make a 7 day a week chart and do something every day of that week to stop this Monster. Every-Single -Day.
Pelley showed how to do it. First, have millions in the bank. Then, tell your bosses to go screw themselves sideways.
I'm still working on the first part, at age 73.
"Now, I ply my trade in the land of king dollar
Where you get paid and your silence passes as honor
And all the hatred and dirty little lies
Been written off the books and into decent men's eyes"
Bruce Springsteen, Souls of the Departed
Money is no longer a measure of anything but corruption anymore. It's another institution corrupted and compromised.
So, you won't mind if I eat your hamburger then?
You take your chances...
Does it have mayo? Because I don't like mayo on burgers. I've never understood that.
I get it sort of but really I don’t think 60 Minutes or any news outlet on broadcast or cable TV has been an institution of journalism for a generation now so I just don’t think any of this is so important. There are always corporate overlords and the lack of such is what makes The Bulwark and similar outlets different.
I've thought about this some and I can't endorse JVL's take on this.
I don't know how the journalism industry works internally, but in businesses I've been involved with, this kind of thing achieves exactly nothing.
I've seen guys blow stuff up on the way out the door, serve up people they perceived as not supportive, send the flaming email wishing everyone on the Titanic well. Seen it all.
The guy leaves. He can't come back. Everyone still there talks about the spectacular flame-out over lunch. Then they go back to work. The boss is still in place. Stuff goes along.
In every case I know of, things just went forward. The company didn't fail. Earnings were released. Captain Flame-Out was forgotten or only brought up by old timers as an example of a spectacular flame-out.
I've run into a few of these guys later. Ask how he's doing. He's working for some other company, doing pretty much the same thing. The new company is, go figure, screwed up. His boss is a jackass. He's thinking about leaving.
If Pelley didn't like what was going on -- and he has plenty of reason to think that -- it'd be better to just line something else up and go there. No need for fireworks. He's the story for 24 hours among people who care about the internal workings of 60 Minutes, a population measured in hundreds, I'm guessing. Go to that other place and make it rain. Maybe bring some others along.
I get your point. But this is 60 Minutes. It has a unique reputation on TV News. One that was built over decades by Pelley and others. And part of that was no interfearance from corporate, but for that famous tobacco incident.
Palley is 68. I doubt he's planning on another job. He made his very public point that this cabal was plotting to destroy this institution. He probably hopes exposing it may force them to pause long enough for it to be saved.
Bari wants more views on digital? I believe the core audience for 60 Minutes is, on average, Medicare-eligible. Girl, they aren't watching on digital. It's appointment TV for your core demographic. Know your product.
“I’m Mad as hell and I can’t take it anymore!”
I'm banging pots and pans out my window, but nothing is happening.