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M. Trosino's avatar

RE: "They gave me, like, 20 names. And I’m like, falling asleep. Then I see Epic Fury..."

It’s a ridiculous and embarrassing name, you say?

Au contraire, my dear Bill.

*Epic Fury* is absolutely the perfect name for a fit thrown by a cranky toddler when he wakes up on the wrong side of the public's opinion of him.

Jeff's avatar

I like how folks have taken to calling it Operation Epstein Fury.

Geoff Anderson's avatar

I'm partial to "Operation Eternal Dumbass" myself

Dave Yell's avatar

or Epic Fury is an anagram to Epstein Files

Oldandintheway's avatar

Operation Epic Vanity

Operation Epic Failure -- said the Iranian Foreign Minister

Operation Trump Loves to Kill People

As the US Secretary of Energy said this morning, we will go through a short period of sacrifice to gain safety from Iran forever (something to that effect). It seems the short period could be two days to six years. Nobody knows when Trump will decide that he won enough, or what his decision will be based on. But no one knows why he decided to join in the bombing of Iran. The seven reasons he's given are not convincing. Even the most loyal Republicans can't keep up.

Ken Davies's avatar

One wonders what dirt Netanyahu has on Trump? And how big the anti-semitism backlash will be when Americans discover the cost of Trump’s war on Israel’s behalf.

Tim Matchette's avatar

Yeah, this Chris Wright is another moron with a big mouth and no talent. Typical felon pick.

orbit's avatar

I see 'Epic Fury' and I think 'McDonald's meets Depends'.

Martha's avatar

Don't you wonder what a nightmare toddler he was for his mother? Certainly explains her mental health issues...now I have them.

Christine's avatar

it explains why he was sent to a boarding school. It didn't help much.

M. Trosino's avatar

I doubt if even waterboarding would've helped.

Allenby's avatar

Is it too late?

Steven Insertname's avatar

Esp when he was an 18-year-old toddler. Tho I'm sure it was nannies that had to take the brunt of his diaper-throwing tantrums.

rlritt's avatar

I doubt he ever saw his mother. Im sure he was delegated to a nanny.

Maribeth's avatar

I was thinking the same thing.

JMP's avatar

You must mean the nanny.

LHS's avatar

Operation Thoughtless Imbeciles

D.J. Spiny Lumpsucker's avatar

Trump may just be Trumping with the name from his distracted perspective, but step back, take a longer view and it is indeed a perfectly accurate name. Epics are long like the Illiad you say? I'm 72 and bloody Mideast wars have been going on as long as I can remember. And what is that blood but a sign of fury? If Trump doesn't present as epic or furious... well it isn't really his war now is it. Bibi's been spoiling for war with Iran since the last millennium, a pretty epic time span. And if you want a domestic face of 'epic fury', how about Bill's old neo-con bud John Bolton?

On the one hand this version of the war may indeed be over before April Fool's Day, but methinks the war itself will go on, and on, and on.

McRob1234's avatar

How about "Epic Furry"? ;)

max skinner's avatar

SNL characterized it as tattoos on Hegseth's knuckles, but he had the words in the wrong order so when he displayed his fists they read Fury Epic.

M. Trosino's avatar

I was gonna' crack wise that maybe he's dyslexic, but that would continue to promote a long-standing myth and be so patently unfair to countless people disadvantaged by something not of their own making, but who can still differentiate right from wrong backwards and forwards all day long.

Unlike Hegseth, whose moral compass may somehow have been accidentally placed aboard that Tomahawk missile from that now-infamous Iranian girl's school strike.

Tim Matchette's avatar

No surprise, he was probably drunk at the time.

Mary Kay Larcom's avatar

Jimmy Kimmel said that Epic Fury is an anagram for Forget Epstein.

Linda Odell's avatar

Looks to me like he spent considerably more time thinking about the name of the operation than its objectives or possible ramifications. Completely on brand for him.

Lesa Osborne's avatar

Of course, the initials are absolutely flawless, too.

Kass McGann's avatar

Notably, Achilles' fury in The Illiad was over not getting to rape some young women captured during the fighting. Sounds about right.

Chandu's avatar

When you say young women, are you referring to young women or women on the younger side (erstwhile, usually just called girls)? You see, semantics matter. ☺️

Kass McGann's avatar

Well, Chrysis was unmarried and Briseis was married to Mynes, a son of the King of Lyrnessus who was killed by Achilles. History does not tell us their actual ages.

Young women and women "on the younger side" are not girls. Girls are not women. Girls are children.

Chandu's avatar

You didn't seem to get the memo. I attempted a poor joke about Trump's description of Epstein. 😔

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ll1ZUjAB7lo.

Keith Wresch's avatar

I am fascinated by the descriptions we get of these young women. By all accounts Briseis seems to have had a unibrow which may or may not say anything about Achilles taste in women. And then poor Polyxana sacrificed at Achilles grave whose feet are described as small or perfect. She was used as a human sacrifice and people remember her feet!

Kass McGann's avatar

Not that this has anything to do with ancient Greece, but 16th century Turkish and Persia women drew in a unibrow with kohl because it was the preferred cosmetic arrangement. =)

Keith Wresch's avatar

All the better to arch those eyebrows, my dear!

Nathan Zastrow's avatar

This is a different angle on the "What is the definition of a woman?" gotcha question.

Sumeeta's avatar

And a pretty good reason for the phrase “pregnant people.”

rlritt's avatar

Well for Trump any women under 50 would be a much younger women.

Al Keim's avatar

That was a heartbreaker.

CW Stanford's avatar

Oh, please continue that our tears fell for Hector and Andromache as we spat on the ground over Achilles. The Romans created a new story out of the heroic Trojans -- thinking them ancestors through Odysseus and his crew.

Lesa Osborne's avatar

I think you mean Aeneas. Odysseus was Greek.

Brian Lund's avatar

To be fair he was in an even greater fury about his lover Patroclus being killed, so he played both sides.

Kass McGann's avatar

Eh... he verbally berated Patroclus and treated him badly right up until the point he put on Achilles' armor and fought (and died) in his place. Achilles was a spoiled nepo baby who frickin whined too much.

MJXS's avatar

Sulking in his tent over a perceived slight in the middle of a siege. Very Trumpian.

Sko Hayes's avatar

Andrew has a secret comedian hiding behind that serious facade. The shoes on Marco had me cracking up.

Frau Katze's avatar

Side note: the Florsheim company (who made the shoes) is suing the government to get back its tariff money.

LHS's avatar

Even funnier to me is that Florsheim shoes haven't been made in the US in a long time. They may be an "American brand", but you can guess where they are actually made now. They used to be wonderful, durable shoes that looked great for a long time. Now they are a sad shadow of what the brand once was.

Andrea's avatar

Figures Trump would only start liking them after they dropped in quality.

Dave Yell's avatar

Maybe they are now the Trump product brand now. (awful in quality)

Hortense's avatar

I bet MAGA starts buying Florsheim shoes now.

Dave Yell's avatar

And DJT will trademark it, and grift there as well.

Sarah's avatar

Those Florsheims might add a certain flair to the MAGA ear-bandage and diaper ensemble?

Hortense's avatar

As long as they are two sizes too big.

Sko Hayes's avatar

Oh I remember the Florsheim shoe stores! Now they're just cheap Chinese knockoffs.

Mike Lew's avatar

Florsheim were my go-to when I was starting out. I'm more of a Skechers loafers (with the super cushy soles) now. 😀

Sko Hayes's avatar

I'm old now, so I can enjoy the Skecher slip ins with the super cushy soles, it's about all I wear these days!

Kate Fall's avatar

Honestly, that was so, so good, Andrew.

Dave Yell's avatar

As OJ Simpson said: Those are some ugly ass shoes.

Sko Hayes's avatar

Marco told Trump he had size 11.5 feet, and now he's got clown shoes.

KN in NC's avatar

I can't help but observe that "sko" is the Danish word for shoes.

Cecil Bothwell's avatar

Operation Epstein Fury, more likely

Paul K. Ogden's avatar

Yeah, I don't buy the Iran war is a distraction from Epstein. If you do a distraction from something unpopular and hurts you politically, you do not pick something that is even more unpopular and hurts you even more politically. There are a lot of things Trump could have picked if he wanted a distraction. He could have picked a long prolonged fight with the women's hockey team. Bottom line, Trump is not that smart nor is he clever. Just keep that in mind.

Christine's avatar

Trump is not teachable. He doesn't learn, he doesn't listen. No one can tell him anything. If you recall, in his first term, he stated that he knew more than the generals.

If his current military leaders suggested that Iran was not a good idea, because they knew how Iranians thought and functioned as a theocracy, he ignored them.

Trump is a waste of oxygen.

I just want to know when his MAGA base will realize that the doesn't give a rat's ass about them and their problems.

Shantha Smith's avatar

Not teachable, no. But he is manipulable. You can talk him out of or into almost anything if you frame it in terms of his vanity and fears and keep going back so you are the last person he talked to and the person he talked to most. The problem is access, knowing how to package specifically for him, and being able to stomach the whole process.

Trisha Peterson's avatar

nailed it. That's where we are.

Maribeth's avatar

I don’t believe that the true MAGAs will ever understand that he doesn’t care about anyone but Trump.

bitchybitchybitchy's avatar

They are so invested in

Trump as their savior.

LisaB's avatar

I think they are invested in the Trump MAGA club. Lifestyle brand.

Steven Insertname's avatar

Yea, Bibi led him by the nose into this one, probably with some level of encouragement from Putin.

John C Testa's avatar

Time will confirm: bibi flattered frump into this mess!

Cecil Bothwell's avatar

Or Bibi has the pee tapes?

RichinPhoenix's avatar

And yet Democrats lost to him and the Republicans in 2024. Kind of pathetic now that I think about it. Still hard to believe.

rlritt's avatar

Not me. Trump was a star of a TV game show for 12 years. Uninformed voters know him. Wide spread name recognition is powerful.

RichinPhoenix's avatar

But even after the disaster of his first term and January 6? Not buying that. Maybe an excuse for 2016, but not 2024.

Maribeth's avatar

Let’s us know just how many uneducated people are out there.

rlritt's avatar

Trump was a better choice for people who couldn't vote for a Black woman. 47% of Hispanic men voted for Trump.

Dave Yell's avatar

I still have a hard time believing that.

Dave Yell's avatar

War in Iran>>>> Epstein files>>>>> grift scandals>>>>>> epic stupid statements>>>>> "round and round we go in the circle game".

Sumi Ink 🇨🇦's avatar

Debatable. One could also argue that Trump unwisely picked the Iran war as an Epstein distraction BECAUSE he is not that smart nor clever.

But even assuming you're right and it wasn't meant to be an Epstein distraction, right wing media is still doing its best to help make it just the distraction Trump needs. Yesterday on Fox 'News,' Laura Ingraham gushed that Trump "may have saved the world" with his Iran war. Well, if he just saved the entire world, why should anyone care if he might have raped a few girls decades ago?

LisaB's avatar

See you are using the 'you' filter. This is Trump. He thinks, 'Venezuela went well. This will too.' That is how deep it got.

bitchybitchybitchy's avatar

It's the Mother of All Epstein Distractions

Dave Yell's avatar

As Steve Schmidt says: This is what shit looks like.

Tim Coffey's avatar

Andrew: "Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth banning press photographers from the Pentagon briefing room for releasing pictures of him he considers insufficiently hot."

Exactly the type of person you want running a complex, multi-billion dollar operation during a time of war, right, MAGA?

bitchybitchybitchy's avatar

Has anyone told Petey that greasy hair and a heavy spray tan is the opposite of hot?

Tim Coffey's avatar

The man is in arrested development. He never matured past 14 years old.

MProvenza's avatar

You know he still slatheres himself in Drakkar Noir

Tim Coffey's avatar

That is so fuckin' 80s.

Tim Coffey's avatar

I wasn't alive in the 60s, but I'm old enough to remember Drakkar.

Virtuous Subversive's avatar

Are you sure? AXE seems more his speed...🤭

M. Trosino's avatar

Too much credit, that.

Tim Coffey's avatar

You may be right. My sister-in-law's foster son is six years old, and he's smarter and more in control of himself than Pete is.

M. Trosino's avatar

And he probably has a better haircut, too. :-)

Steven Insertname's avatar

He's about a Gob-level intellect.

Mike Lew's avatar

Next you'll say that an extra heavy spraying of Axe isn't attractive. 😀

Tim Coffey's avatar

Pete probably thinks it doesn't matter so long as the object of his desire is unconscious.

Dan Leithauser's avatar

Hegseth had an assistant make a run to the local Walmart to buy out the petroleum based hair and skin products he prefers before they disappear from the epic fury shelves.

Just the Facts's avatar

Don’t forget the mewing!

Dave Yell's avatar

The wet head is not dead.

Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

Give him a break Tim, he did figure out how to bulk order lobster and fruit baskets.

Dave Yell's avatar

Paging RFK Jr. Is that healthy?

Maggie's avatar

Is the fruit GMO Free? Did he dip the Lobster in beef tallow instead of butter?

Dave Yell's avatar

We know it wasn't Trump lobster.

Maribeth's avatar

Did he order fruit baskets or just fruit basket stands without the fruit? Inquiring minds want to know.

Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

For the price, it better have been the full monte.

Maribeth's avatar

With bigly bananas?!?

Maribeth's avatar

Who ever said that Pete was hot?

Sumi Ink 🇨🇦's avatar

I wonder how many of our tax $$$ are spent on Hegseth's exclusive Pentagon makeup room?

bitchybitchybitchy's avatar

The only Homer with which Trump is familiar is Homer Simpson.

Maribeth's avatar

Is it 5 o’clock yet? I want vodka! I operate on liquor.

Dan Leithauser's avatar

I am sorry. I could not resist.

A Tale of Two Trumps, S29 The Simpsons.

(3:11 minutes total)

https://youtu.be/uq4FCuEaclA?si=t4m0n23W49YK-W2i

M. Trosino's avatar

Yeah, after all those guest appearances Trump made as Mr. Burns, he probably did get to know Homer a little bit better than we might suspect...

Kate Fall's avatar

To quote that illustrious show, this man was elected to lead, not read.

Steven Insertname's avatar

And mistakenly concluded that Homer is the role model to be emulated.

Lewis Grotelueschen's avatar

Trump officials in clown shoes. At least they're dressing the part.

Mike Lew's avatar

Until this administration, that term wasn't literal.

Arp's avatar

If the clown shoe fits...

D.J. Spiny Lumpsucker's avatar

Amidst such strange but depressingly banal footery, I shall give thanks for the wonderful strangeness of The Shaggs.

https://youtu.be/yxG7HdTRaa4?si=HLxINe-ZV6KlxTSG

The Blockhead Chronicles's avatar

Re AI: just a few minutes ago, I was in Word, letting the Editor (its own kind of AI) check my spelling and grammar. It flagged a reference to “48 hours” and suggested I go with “about four days.”

I think even 12-year-old humans wouldn’t make THAT error.

LHS's avatar

I don't know whether to laugh or cry about that.

E. A. Bare's avatar

Laugh, he didn't listen

Carol S.'s avatar

I've been casually compiling a list of AI audio-to-caption errors I've seen:

Pasteis de Nata -- pest destinations

Crathie Kirk – Crappy Kirk

She’s an ingenue – She’s an engineer

goat cheese gateau – goat cheese ghetto

The Baths of Caracalla were ancient Rome’s second largest public baths – The bats of Pedagon, Lower ancient Rome’s second largest ....

(On the "sailing stones" of Death Valley): -- Some are upwards of £500 and still travel more than 15 feet a minute. ….. some weighed up to £700 …

Kristie Gnome

Etc.

E. A. Bare's avatar

yeah my word grammar checker suggested "it be good" for it was good

Maribeth's avatar

Did you have it set for Ebonics?

Justin Lee's avatar

Well, 48 hours would be about 4 days on Saturn.

Stephen Reed's avatar

Regarding the strike on the girl's school that is often being left out of the reporting: "The U.S. Built a Blueprint to Avoid Civilian War Casualties. Trump Officials Scrapped It."

Hegseth cut the personnell that mitigate civilian harm and help review targets by 90%. IOW this was an active choice by Hegseth to increase these kind of mistakes because he thinks preventing excess civilian casualties is "woke".

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-defense-department-iran-hegseth-civilian-casualties

Hortense's avatar

Mitigating collateral damage is just so PC.

max skinner's avatar

Woke and wimpy. This is WAR or EXCURSION!

Tom Burst's avatar

Regarding “Who killed those girls,” every single person who voted for Trump killed them. So did all the CEO’s who didn’t stand up to him.

Nathan Zastrow's avatar

My mind also thinks that there are people who literally loaded that particular missile and did the targeting and crewed the vessel that launched it. I don't know where the chain of traceability ends for a strike like that, but I'm sure the people who carried out their mission did so with confidence and trust that is now lessened by the fact that the missile fell on a school. I know I have a problem with that, and it would feel much closer if I was on the ship or armed the ordnance ect...

Joe S's avatar

That's why in my opinion you don't follow illegal orders. Maybe that leads to discipline or discharge or whatever, but you also don't have the blood of hundreds of elementary school children on your hands/conscience.

The fact that the military keeps following these clearly extralegal orders and killings (like the Caribbean boat strikes) makes me very uneasy.

Nathan Zastrow's avatar

My guess is that in a case like this no one directly involved realized that the targeted location was a school. Whether someone in the chain should have realized or if risk of civilian casualties should have been better mitigated are different valid questions. None of that makes the actual situation better if it's true, but it is a different kind of bad.

Maribeth's avatar

In the past they were able to have confidence in their superiors.

Hortense's avatar

The point of military training is group cohesion. Very much needed...most of the time. To break from that is very hard to do, as we keep seeing with My Lai and Abu Graib.

Garvin's avatar

Hegseth's Department of WAR stands for "Weak-Ass Responses" to hard questions and, now apparently, unflattering photographic images.

Justin Lee's avatar

Clavicular has them terrified of a "very recessed side-profile."

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tX7RDn5zuIU

Liam Comer-Weaver's avatar

I'm genuinely curious if the consequences of this war come back to American shores, will the people connect the dots? Or will they once again rally around a "strong" president and retrench in the us vs them mentality? If the latter, it seems like we're doomed to repeat this cycle every 15 years ad infinitum.

Mike Lew's avatar

I'd never rule out rally around big tough Republican daddy. However, the vibes are different now. I don't think political support for Republican daddy is 100% anymore.

Liam Comer-Weaver's avatar

I also think the level of trust with the government is so low right now, I can't imagine ever returning to the ~80% post 9/11 support for any government. In some respects, that's probably a good thing.

Maribeth's avatar

I hope that he has lost some of his flock.

Nathan Zastrow's avatar

I think definitely some of both, but I really hope a lot would connect the dots, while hoping we don't actually have to find out the answer.

Michael's avatar

I think this is called “blowback” and I am not confident the public would connect the dots. And there’s now a few networks that would go all in on rallying around Trump, while attacking anyone trying to connect the dots as “anti-American.”

Justin Lee's avatar

Um, why don't they just buy themselves a pair of identical Florsheim shoes in the correct size? At $145, those things cost less than my sneakers. Expecting Trump to tell the difference is insane, unless he had Tulsi bug the shoes.

Oh, now that I think of it, I bet he did have Tulsi bug the shoes. Or he at least wants his subordinates to think the shoes are bugged.

Nathan Zastrow's avatar

There's a risk in this approach; it implies that you think the Big Guy bought you the wrong size shoes. He might not like that, so it's better to just perambulate in the ill-fitting ones. It really is a perfect real-world demonstration of the state of affairs in the administration; I don't hate it for them.

Jeff's avatar
Mar 12Edited

The fact that they can’t even say, “sir it was the wrong size, but I love the shoes so I ordered some. Thank you for thinking.” of me is wild. The capitulation is something to behold. And these are supposed to be the people speaking TRUTH to the president. His advisors are too scared to even swap out their shoes for fear that the dimensia president will notice.

LHS's avatar

Yeah, and if they approached him with tears in their eyes when they said, "Sir", he might mention them in his next rally ramble. 😀

JMP's avatar

The fact that they can't just say, "thanks, but no thanks, I like the shoes I have," or just accept the shoes but never wear them, tells you everything you need to know about their capitulation and lack of ordinary, every-day courage. They are afraid of this man child. Pitiful. Not only is the government being run by a bunch of idiots, they are also cowards.

Justin Lee's avatar

Maybe he did it to give them growing room.

Nathan Zastrow's avatar

Room to grow more infantile in their subservience maybe.

Mike Lew's avatar

No, it's another dominance display.

Linda Oliver's avatar

He could have deliberately gotten them ill-fitting shoes, so that if they had ones that fit, that would demonstrate their insufficient loyalty. If Marco suddenly showed up in shoes he didn’t swim in, it would be obvious.

Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

Or the bigger sizes were on sale and Trump got this side benefit.

Steven Insertname's avatar

He asked their shoe sizes, and got them 2 sizes too big - tho Marco, at least, obviously overstated his "size", nudge nudge.

Sumeeta's avatar

This whole shoe affair just screams “cult,” or “high-control group” to be academic about it. I'm currently reading an excellent book titled The Culting of America and you could not have invented a more perfect anecdote for the chapter on appearance control.

JMP's avatar

How soon before he orders blue suits and red ties for everyone?

max skinner's avatar

Are we sure those photos of too big shoes (or too little feet?) are not just some manipulated photos?

Andrew Joyce's avatar

What I want to know is why the DOGE theft of American's social security data is not bigger news. LOL. I know, I know. We're at war with East Eurasia. The sad clomp clomp clomp of courtiers in the halls of 1600 Penn is bathetic.

LHS's avatar

I was surprised about that, too. Although I was not surprised about the story itself. It is exactly what we were all worried about when it became clear DOGE boys were being given the keys to the kingdom.

max skinner's avatar

I guess it's because that is "old" news and because no one's Social Security checks or anything else of direct benefit have been delayed or tampered with. Until it hurts one directly, no one cares about breaches.

Maribeth's avatar

I have bitched about the fact that there was a colossal data breach with social security back in the days of DOGE, but most people ignored what I had to say. I figured it was because everyone knew that it happened and it was too late to do jack about it.

Steven Insertname's avatar

If we hadn't come to the conclusion that Big Data doesn't have all of our information in the last 10 years by now, it'll never sink in.

Andrew Joyce's avatar

It's the principle of this "law" thing: what DOGE has done is illegal. You and I know that Palantir et al have broken the law by receiving stolen goods and the whole crew should be hauled up before the courts. MAGA delenda est.

Steven Insertname's avatar

True, but Zuck and Xitter have been harvesting user data for 15+ years. One thing someone (who started one of the first internet data companies) said in the early days of MySpace and Facebook, "If you're not paying for a service, you're the product being sold". It probably wasn't even illegal at the time, bkz Congress moved very slowly on it. Probly isn't illegal now, either, since that stuff moves so fast, and the government has always been friendly to big tech.

Clammer31's avatar

Our friend Trump might be well advised to consider the fate of Agamemnon on his triumphal return from Troy.

Al Keim's avatar

What would we pay to watch the president say Agamemnon. '-)

Barbara Bearman's avatar

Reread the Iliad? As if trump ever read it in the first place!, unless it was the Cliff Notes version.

CLR's avatar

More like the Classic Comics version.

Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

His older sister read it for him. After all, she was the one who took his test.

Al Keim's avatar

A bridge too far.

M. Trosino's avatar

Wrong bridge, but a good likeness of the trainwreck of Trump's ever even attempting to read the Iliad...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpl4wkWMJtE

Al Keim's avatar

My bridge had an A - in front of it and a - d - taking up the rear.

LHS's avatar

He's only interested in reading about the Sirens in the Odyssey.

Kay Ellen O'Maighe's avatar

If only Melania could get the same immunity deal that SCOTUS provided her husband.

Clammer31's avatar

Malaria Clytemnestra has a nice ring to it.

Larry Pareigis's avatar

Operation Cheeto Dessication.