Conservative voters do not believe life is quantifiably better in blue states. Those who live outside the blue states only see high taxes and Fox News outrage over how dangerous the cities are. They don't experience the fact that higher taxes actually pay for things like better hospitals and roads and libraries and schools and public tra…
Conservative voters do not believe life is quantifiably better in blue states. Those who live outside the blue states only see high taxes and Fox News outrage over how dangerous the cities are. They don't experience the fact that higher taxes actually pay for things like better hospitals and roads and libraries and schools and public transportation and public spaces and the list goes on. Conservatives inside blue states often do not realize that the things they take for granted that exist and function due to their higher taxes barely exist in a lot of red states, if they exist at all. Even large cities in red states often fall well short of the services offered in small cities in blue states (especially transportation options). I see this alot living in Illinois for 20 years and having all of my family living in a handful of red states. They genuinely think that I must be paying half my income in taxes (I'm not) to pay for services I never use. They see absolutely no benefits to what those of us who live in blue states have because they are convinced that our money only goes to pay either government pensions (which they HATE) or social services that THEY certainly would never need/use.
Case in point- half of Eastern Oregon wants to be in Idaho cause they are more alike. However, they seem to entirely (as most magats are) that a) Oregon has a higher minimum wage, b) Portland sends more money to eastern Oregon that they could never get from Idaho which would probably treat these new counties as stepchildren c) and most importantly the health care they receive in Oregon is way far superior to that in Idaho
Sometimes strong conservatives disdain the benefits from services they receive because they are so annoyed that they are also available to people in the lower class. They would rather higher costs as long as access is closed to the poor.
Unfortunately I had to move to NC because of my job. It's amazing the differences! Here in Raleigh, there's no usable mass transit. You would think an area that encompasses the state capitol, RTP, multiple universities, an international airport, would have a good public transportation system. Nope, no commuter rail at all between the capitol, universities, the airport, and the bedroom communities. They brag about how great Wake Co. schools are but they can't hold a candle to the schools my children attended in NJ. The majority of jobs are low paying. Hi-tech firms that move here for tax breaks usually relocate their people here (and boy do they get culture shock!) so those companies really don't benefit the majority of the area's population. They really do live in a different world in a red state.
We lived in a town, Whippany NJ that was close to Bell Labs and Allied Chemical - this was 40 years ago. We would see lots of corporate transplants. I would meet them at soccer games and other kids events. They invariably spoke of how good our schools were. For me - a lifelong Jersey Boy, I saw our schools as nothing out of the ordinary and knew that 3 towns in our county had "better" schools so better test scores. Across the Northeast you would find the same - schools routinely good. Of course poor cities are challenge, but they are a challenge across the board, not just schools.
A friend of mine moved to Charlotte from Illinois and loves it. She was also a pretty conservative person in a sea of liberals 😆.
Several years ago I looked at moving back to my red home state. I could not find a job that came close to paying me what I made then. I would've had to take about a 20% pay cut, even factoring in the admittedly lower cost of living. And I would've had to start driving to work every day. It was really eye opening. And so 10 years later I am still in Illinois.
I moved out of IL some years ago although I was educated in Chicago suburbs and worked a good part of my adult life the city, I took for granted great restaurants, parks along the lake and incredible museums. I don't regret moving to Southern CA though, because Chicago's one evil is miserably cold winters and driving on ice and snow.
Conservative voters do not believe life is quantifiably better in blue states. Those who live outside the blue states only see high taxes and Fox News outrage over how dangerous the cities are. They don't experience the fact that higher taxes actually pay for things like better hospitals and roads and libraries and schools and public transportation and public spaces and the list goes on. Conservatives inside blue states often do not realize that the things they take for granted that exist and function due to their higher taxes barely exist in a lot of red states, if they exist at all. Even large cities in red states often fall well short of the services offered in small cities in blue states (especially transportation options). I see this alot living in Illinois for 20 years and having all of my family living in a handful of red states. They genuinely think that I must be paying half my income in taxes (I'm not) to pay for services I never use. They see absolutely no benefits to what those of us who live in blue states have because they are convinced that our money only goes to pay either government pensions (which they HATE) or social services that THEY certainly would never need/use.
Case in point- half of Eastern Oregon wants to be in Idaho cause they are more alike. However, they seem to entirely (as most magats are) that a) Oregon has a higher minimum wage, b) Portland sends more money to eastern Oregon that they could never get from Idaho which would probably treat these new counties as stepchildren c) and most importantly the health care they receive in Oregon is way far superior to that in Idaho
Moving parts of Oregon to Idaho probably wouldn't happen. Too many hurdles including State and Congressional approvals.
But you never know.
Sometimes strong conservatives disdain the benefits from services they receive because they are so annoyed that they are also available to people in the lower class. They would rather higher costs as long as access is closed to the poor.
Unfortunately I had to move to NC because of my job. It's amazing the differences! Here in Raleigh, there's no usable mass transit. You would think an area that encompasses the state capitol, RTP, multiple universities, an international airport, would have a good public transportation system. Nope, no commuter rail at all between the capitol, universities, the airport, and the bedroom communities. They brag about how great Wake Co. schools are but they can't hold a candle to the schools my children attended in NJ. The majority of jobs are low paying. Hi-tech firms that move here for tax breaks usually relocate their people here (and boy do they get culture shock!) so those companies really don't benefit the majority of the area's population. They really do live in a different world in a red state.
We lived in a town, Whippany NJ that was close to Bell Labs and Allied Chemical - this was 40 years ago. We would see lots of corporate transplants. I would meet them at soccer games and other kids events. They invariably spoke of how good our schools were. For me - a lifelong Jersey Boy, I saw our schools as nothing out of the ordinary and knew that 3 towns in our county had "better" schools so better test scores. Across the Northeast you would find the same - schools routinely good. Of course poor cities are challenge, but they are a challenge across the board, not just schools.
A friend of mine moved to Charlotte from Illinois and loves it. She was also a pretty conservative person in a sea of liberals 😆.
Several years ago I looked at moving back to my red home state. I could not find a job that came close to paying me what I made then. I would've had to take about a 20% pay cut, even factoring in the admittedly lower cost of living. And I would've had to start driving to work every day. It was really eye opening. And so 10 years later I am still in Illinois.
I moved out of IL some years ago although I was educated in Chicago suburbs and worked a good part of my adult life the city, I took for granted great restaurants, parks along the lake and incredible museums. I don't regret moving to Southern CA though, because Chicago's one evil is miserably cold winters and driving on ice and snow.