My feelings of optimism about the youth vote (I have supported David Hogg’s group) have been diluted by their baffling support for Hamas, with unmistakable antisemitic overtones. That has shaken me.
My feelings of optimism about the youth vote (I have supported David Hogg’s group) have been diluted by their baffling support for Hamas, with unmistakable antisemitic overtones. That has shaken me.
I think there is a difference between Palestinians and HAMAS that a lot of younger people seem unable to differentiate. I can be equally appalled at Hamas and Netanayahoo.
And a salient point within that paradigm is that Israelis took to the streets against their own government which had gone awry; Palestinians have acquiesced to Hamas.
The pro Palestinian kids are not nearly the threat racist MAGA'ts have proven to be for every group not white skinned and that includes Jews. I'll get more worried if the kids get really violent and start parading with AR15's. Come November 2024, these kids won't be voting for Trump.
I wish I had your confidence that they won’t vote Trump. To me, those two acts (supporting Hamas/supporting Trump) are equally horrible, and naturally adjacent.
They won't vote Trump because most of them are supporting Palestine against the 'colonial occupier'. They think they are supporting the underdog instead of a rabid dog. Come November other issues like abortion, guns, climate change, and LGBTQ issues will compete for attention. Trump does not win on any of those. They may not vote Biden, but they definitely won't vote Trump. At least not in any real numbers.
My feelings of optimism about the youth vote (I have supported David Hogg’s group) have been diluted by their baffling support for Hamas, with unmistakable antisemitic overtones. That has shaken me.
I think there is a difference between Palestinians and HAMAS that a lot of younger people seem unable to differentiate. I can be equally appalled at Hamas and Netanayahoo.
And a salient point within that paradigm is that Israelis took to the streets against their own government which had gone awry; Palestinians have acquiesced to Hamas.
I think the kids do differentiate. They are pro Palestinian people, not pro Hamas
The pro Palestinian kids are not nearly the threat racist MAGA'ts have proven to be for every group not white skinned and that includes Jews. I'll get more worried if the kids get really violent and start parading with AR15's. Come November 2024, these kids won't be voting for Trump.
They won’t vote for Trump, but they just might not vote at all - just as bad.
I wish I had your confidence that they won’t vote Trump. To me, those two acts (supporting Hamas/supporting Trump) are equally horrible, and naturally adjacent.
They won't vote Trump because most of them are supporting Palestine against the 'colonial occupier'. They think they are supporting the underdog instead of a rabid dog. Come November other issues like abortion, guns, climate change, and LGBTQ issues will compete for attention. Trump does not win on any of those. They may not vote Biden, but they definitely won't vote Trump. At least not in any real numbers.
Or they sit home, which is just as bad for Biden/democracy.
You make a good case. But Trump and Hamas share a vile basic: “The cruelty is the point”. And the kids seem on board. Time will tell.
"They think they are supporting the underdog instead of a rabid dog."
Added to my list of "metaphors to remember."
Thanks!
Yeah, these are not the tiki-torch carriers.
Optimism that young people will vote at high levels is always foolish
I wasn’t thinking so much of them voting or not voting; more which way they would vote.