I cannot understand the hatred for protesters that so many of you on this site proclaim. Is this not America and exactly what you should want from young people who are fed up?
I cannot understand the hatred for protesters that so many of you on this site proclaim. Is this not America and exactly what you should want from young people who are fed up?
It isn't hatred. I would just like college students to go to class and learn. Extracurricular mob activities are not conducive to their personal and professional development.
I would also like them to analyze (with a professional perhaps) what it is exactly they are "fed up" with. Performative and ineffective political "activism" is often driven by an insecure ego and porous personal boundaries.
It is hatred and they are fed up with what they view as genocide. You don't have to agree with them, but a lot of serious people in the world do. And even if no one agrees with them, they still have every right to protest. Ridiculous armchair psychoanalysis is not needed here.
Well, no they should not go to Gaza. However they should protest without violating laws by assaulting others or breaking into buildings. It is too bad "performative" has become a negative buzzword.
ItтАЩs just a word. I donтАЩt use buzzwords. They are performing, like trained seals, without any real understanding. Most will scatter when the semester ends.
More understanding would probably make them even more angry. Besides that a giant generalization. There is a Columbia student right here on the Bulwark whose comments show a good deal of understanding. By the way, nearly every protest stretching back as far as you want to go is "performative," because protesters are usually powerless to do anything besides protest and maybe write letters to the editor or congresspeople.
Putting extreme emotional labels (such as "hatred") on reasonably expressed objections to a practice you personally happen to approve of -- even after people have clearly told you that that is not what they are feeling -- is itself a form of "ridiculous armchair psychoanalysis."
It's a difficult issue on which people of intelligence and goodwill can easily disagree. Stop putting polarizing labels on it.
Ok let's call it "extreme disdain". Is that better? It's really something that this site is supposedly anti-Authoritarian, but people on the right just can't help themselves from gravitating toward it.
Criticism is not the same thing as hatred. Hatred is unhealthy; criticism and disagreement are healthy; that should not have to be said here.
Yes, this is America (of course) -- and no, this egotistical, intolerant, tainted-with-antisemitism performance is not what I do or should want from young people, or old people, or middle-aged people, who have legitimate political and moral concerns. (Whether they're "fed up" or not, I could give a rip; I've been fed up for 50 years and I'm still capable of taking care of myself without trampling on others' rights; so are most people who walk this planet.)
To simply accept this because people are young and "fed up" would be to lump every possible kind of protest carelessly together and assume that just because it's protest, it's OK. Precisely *because* this is America and I want it to stay America, I will not do that.
I cannot understand the hatred for protesters that so many of you on this site proclaim. Is this not America and exactly what you should want from young people who are fed up?
I hate protesters who call for the forceful relocation or death of Jews. I hate protesters who harass or threaten Jews.
As for the rest, meh. Protest your little hearts out, spoiled children.
It isn't hatred. I would just like college students to go to class and learn. Extracurricular mob activities are not conducive to their personal and professional development.
I would also like them to analyze (with a professional perhaps) what it is exactly they are "fed up" with. Performative and ineffective political "activism" is often driven by an insecure ego and porous personal boundaries.
It is hatred and they are fed up with what they view as genocide. You don't have to agree with them, but a lot of serious people in the world do. And even if no one agrees with them, they still have every right to protest. Ridiculous armchair psychoanalysis is not needed here.
They have every right to protest. They have no right to assault anyone or break into buildings.
Then they should go to Gaza and help. Otherwise itтАЩs just performative. For most of them itтАЩs a social activity.
See how many stick around when schoolтАЩs out.
Well, no they should not go to Gaza. However they should protest without violating laws by assaulting others or breaking into buildings. It is too bad "performative" has become a negative buzzword.
ItтАЩs just a word. I donтАЩt use buzzwords. They are performing, like trained seals, without any real understanding. Most will scatter when the semester ends.
More understanding would probably make them even more angry. Besides that a giant generalization. There is a Columbia student right here on the Bulwark whose comments show a good deal of understanding. By the way, nearly every protest stretching back as far as you want to go is "performative," because protesters are usually powerless to do anything besides protest and maybe write letters to the editor or congresspeople.
Putting extreme emotional labels (such as "hatred") on reasonably expressed objections to a practice you personally happen to approve of -- even after people have clearly told you that that is not what they are feeling -- is itself a form of "ridiculous armchair psychoanalysis."
It's a difficult issue on which people of intelligence and goodwill can easily disagree. Stop putting polarizing labels on it.
Ok let's call it "extreme disdain". Is that better? It's really something that this site is supposedly anti-Authoritarian, but people on the right just can't help themselves from gravitating toward it.
No, I would say that's still a completely inaccurate assessment.
And I do think it's amusing, all our different ideas of what this site is "supposed" to be. It's almost like a Rorschach test.
This will not stop genocide.
Criticism is not the same thing as hatred. Hatred is unhealthy; criticism and disagreement are healthy; that should not have to be said here.
Yes, this is America (of course) -- and no, this egotistical, intolerant, tainted-with-antisemitism performance is not what I do or should want from young people, or old people, or middle-aged people, who have legitimate political and moral concerns. (Whether they're "fed up" or not, I could give a rip; I've been fed up for 50 years and I'm still capable of taking care of myself without trampling on others' rights; so are most people who walk this planet.)
To simply accept this because people are young and "fed up" would be to lump every possible kind of protest carelessly together and assume that just because it's protest, it's OK. Precisely *because* this is America and I want it to stay America, I will not do that.