Sigh. You do realize that intifada simply means "rebellion?" It has been around as a political term since 1952 and involved internal strife in Iraq. Out of 24 uses listed by Wikipedia, 5 involve Palestinians and Israel. It's connotation for "destroy Israel" is not by any means universal.
One can agree that the Palestinians now and in the …
Sigh. You do realize that intifada simply means "rebellion?" It has been around as a political term since 1952 and involved internal strife in Iraq. Out of 24 uses listed by Wikipedia, 5 involve Palestinians and Israel. It's connotation for "destroy Israel" is not by any means universal.
One can agree that the Palestinians now and in the past have had plenty of reasons to dislike Israeli policies and ACTS against them without approving Hamas's METHODS of retaliation. Being pro Palestinian is NOT being pro Hamas, much less pro-terrorist.
I do wish every single student arrested in these protests were asked "do you support a two state solution" and "do you think that the Israeli government's reaction has gone over the top" and "do you think the Israeli government's actions are the fault of all Jews?"
And also ask any non-students similarly arrested.
The results very well may show that not a whole lot of those protesting were supporters of anything like the intifada that commentators are claiming they support--destruction of Israel. And some of the counter protestors may well show opinions that "from the River to the Sea" is a righteous phrase for the idea of the ambitions of Bibi's reactionaries in his cabinet and party.
Yes, I deplore violence in a protest. But yelling isn't violence. Camping isn't violence. Destruction of buildings is, and I deplore that action while also understanding the motives behind it.
As far as I can tell there actually hasn't been an investigation into antisemitic incidents reported nor any concrete examples of why it "isn't safe" to be on a campus when there ARE protests going any more then there are when the campus is just chugging along doing its usual thing. There are rabble rousers on both sides in this mess, and some of them are just COMMENTING on the protests, not part of them. And have there been Islamophobic instances on campus, either now or in the past? Curious minds want to know.
So while I deplore violence--and any real hate speech that violates the campus code against ANYONE--I also deplore the rush to judgment that is going on in so many stories and opinions about what is happening. It is hard to find instances of PEACEFUL protests on the subject being broadcast widely, though peaceful protests are indeed going on and you can find them if you look.
Antisemitism is on the rise. So is racism, religious intolerance, cultural intolerance, Islamophobia, and so much other hateful stuff Why? Ask trump, who has given so many people permission to voice prejudices they have have clearly had all along, where before a culture of basic civility had "stifled" that expression in public.
Sigh. You do realize that intifada simply means "rebellion?" It has been around as a political term since 1952 and involved internal strife in Iraq. Out of 24 uses listed by Wikipedia, 5 involve Palestinians and Israel. It's connotation for "destroy Israel" is not by any means universal.
One can agree that the Palestinians now and in the past have had plenty of reasons to dislike Israeli policies and ACTS against them without approving Hamas's METHODS of retaliation. Being pro Palestinian is NOT being pro Hamas, much less pro-terrorist.
I do wish every single student arrested in these protests were asked "do you support a two state solution" and "do you think that the Israeli government's reaction has gone over the top" and "do you think the Israeli government's actions are the fault of all Jews?"
And also ask any non-students similarly arrested.
The results very well may show that not a whole lot of those protesting were supporters of anything like the intifada that commentators are claiming they support--destruction of Israel. And some of the counter protestors may well show opinions that "from the River to the Sea" is a righteous phrase for the idea of the ambitions of Bibi's reactionaries in his cabinet and party.
Yes, I deplore violence in a protest. But yelling isn't violence. Camping isn't violence. Destruction of buildings is, and I deplore that action while also understanding the motives behind it.
As far as I can tell there actually hasn't been an investigation into antisemitic incidents reported nor any concrete examples of why it "isn't safe" to be on a campus when there ARE protests going any more then there are when the campus is just chugging along doing its usual thing. There are rabble rousers on both sides in this mess, and some of them are just COMMENTING on the protests, not part of them. And have there been Islamophobic instances on campus, either now or in the past? Curious minds want to know.
So while I deplore violence--and any real hate speech that violates the campus code against ANYONE--I also deplore the rush to judgment that is going on in so many stories and opinions about what is happening. It is hard to find instances of PEACEFUL protests on the subject being broadcast widely, though peaceful protests are indeed going on and you can find them if you look.
Antisemitism is on the rise. So is racism, religious intolerance, cultural intolerance, Islamophobia, and so much other hateful stuff Why? Ask trump, who has given so many people permission to voice prejudices they have have clearly had all along, where before a culture of basic civility had "stifled" that expression in public.