Yup. It’s the voters but like you said, keep peeling back the onion and you have GOP politicians and an entire infotainment industry who profit or gain power by inflaming divisions, mostly dishonestly. Feedback loop. Sarah Longwell’s GOP Triangle of Doom.
It’s very lucrative - you can become a member of Congress or even President by playi…
Yup. It’s the voters but like you said, keep peeling back the onion and you have GOP politicians and an entire infotainment industry who profit or gain power by inflaming divisions, mostly dishonestly. Feedback loop. Sarah Longwell’s GOP Triangle of Doom.
It’s very lucrative - you can become a member of Congress or even President by playing this vile game. Or make $5M-$20M as a primetime Fox host. No honor, no integrity, no shame.
It is hard to believe that this mess is happening; that so many people, brainwashed for years by conservative media, would insist, despite the mountain of evidence, that Trump did nothing wrong.
I still want to understand WHY they stand by him. Not all of these people are stupid. Sure, they seem to be emotionally attached to a man who cares nothing about them, but why? I can’t even stand to listen to his voice; they hang on his every word.
I suppose at the end of the day that a big part of it is that the world is changing, and they are deeply unhappy about it. There doesn’t seem to be anything that anyone can do to get us out of the Trump rut. If Trump dies, another Trump might come along-heaven forbid. One is enough!
Scrawf - well said. I totally get partisanship, tribalism, confirmation bias - human nature, nothing new, we are all susceptible to a degree.
But this is something altogether different - irrational and toxic and dangerous - and hard to wrap my brain around.
From “he’s kind of an asshole, but let’s give a businessman a chance as POTUS” in 2016 to today: “he is infallible, no criticism is tolerated, the entire justice system is out to set him up, the electoral system is corrupt, anyone who doesn’t support him is stupid or evil, only he can save the country by burning the government down, bring on the retribution and civil war”.
I exchanged texts with an old childhood friend yesterday who is in this camp. I can’t say anything about Trump without an automatic, often conspiracy-oriented defense. In his 60s, college educated (history major!), successful investment advisor. It’s madness. How do you continue to be friends with someone you have so much respect for? So sad, and so unnecessary.
I have a similar good friend. It used to be that we would try to convince each other, and sometimes I would get a concession from her. But by the next debate, it would be like that never happened. She would be freshly fired up from Fox News or her sister's diatribes, broadly condemning the left/Biden/Hunter/Nancy/abortion/CRT/woke/trans in broad sweeping statements, far from specific actions we had discussed the time before. Listening to someone call out all the evil & bad behavior is faster and more satisfying than looking for other sources.
Yup. It’s the voters but like you said, keep peeling back the onion and you have GOP politicians and an entire infotainment industry who profit or gain power by inflaming divisions, mostly dishonestly. Feedback loop. Sarah Longwell’s GOP Triangle of Doom.
It’s very lucrative - you can become a member of Congress or even President by playing this vile game. Or make $5M-$20M as a primetime Fox host. No honor, no integrity, no shame.
It is hard to believe that this mess is happening; that so many people, brainwashed for years by conservative media, would insist, despite the mountain of evidence, that Trump did nothing wrong.
I still want to understand WHY they stand by him. Not all of these people are stupid. Sure, they seem to be emotionally attached to a man who cares nothing about them, but why? I can’t even stand to listen to his voice; they hang on his every word.
I suppose at the end of the day that a big part of it is that the world is changing, and they are deeply unhappy about it. There doesn’t seem to be anything that anyone can do to get us out of the Trump rut. If Trump dies, another Trump might come along-heaven forbid. One is enough!
Scrawf - well said. I totally get partisanship, tribalism, confirmation bias - human nature, nothing new, we are all susceptible to a degree.
But this is something altogether different - irrational and toxic and dangerous - and hard to wrap my brain around.
From “he’s kind of an asshole, but let’s give a businessman a chance as POTUS” in 2016 to today: “he is infallible, no criticism is tolerated, the entire justice system is out to set him up, the electoral system is corrupt, anyone who doesn’t support him is stupid or evil, only he can save the country by burning the government down, bring on the retribution and civil war”.
I exchanged texts with an old childhood friend yesterday who is in this camp. I can’t say anything about Trump without an automatic, often conspiracy-oriented defense. In his 60s, college educated (history major!), successful investment advisor. It’s madness. How do you continue to be friends with someone you have so much respect for? So sad, and so unnecessary.
I have a friend like that. We do not discuss politics. Funny thing is, she was completely uninterested in politics for years.
I have a similar good friend. It used to be that we would try to convince each other, and sometimes I would get a concession from her. But by the next debate, it would be like that never happened. She would be freshly fired up from Fox News or her sister's diatribes, broadly condemning the left/Biden/Hunter/Nancy/abortion/CRT/woke/trans in broad sweeping statements, far from specific actions we had discussed the time before. Listening to someone call out all the evil & bad behavior is faster and more satisfying than looking for other sources.