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Eric Foley's avatar

Novel thought: maybe there should be an upper limit on the number of holds or filibusters a Senator can do in one session without going up to the podium and holding the floor.

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mollymoe222's avatar

I read in Politico that Alabama is competing for the permanent home of Space Command. If Tuberville wants it, then he needs to play ball. I know, not a nice thing to say, but the man is hurting military readiness.

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Steven Hearn's avatar

Agreed, I say none. This is insanity.

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HistoricalHolli's avatar

Going back to the talking filibuster is essential to reforming the Senate. This nonsense "paper filibuster" has made it way too easy to abuse. It was never meant to be used this way.

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Tedow's avatar

My (admittedly limited) understanding is that he isn't actually putting "holds" on the nominations. Instead, he is withholding his approval for nominations by unanimous consent. Thus, each nomination has to have a hearing, which takes time, and the Senate calendar is already pretty busy. So it's more like a delay than a hold, but the end effect is basically the same.

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Eric Foley's avatar

Same thing. The entire concept of a hold is by withholding unanimous consent under the Senate rules.

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David Court's avatar

Why should there be unilateral, for not valid reason related to the appointment, holds at all? I have not researched the issue, but I believe it to be a "courtesy" the Senate extends to its members, but I have no idea why, or when or how it developed. And, if I am right, I could imagine none of the 100 wanting to give up a perk.

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Eric Foley's avatar

The general idea originally was a rule requiring unanimous consent to consider bills on the floor so that Senators be consulted and be allowed to take time to study bills that affect their state or in which they take a strong interest. It didnтАЩt start to be abused in this way until the 70s.

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David Court's avatar

Thanks, another good idea raped by a single jerk. Perhaps all that is needed is a time limit to "study the bill". Even a brain-wonder like Coach should be able to figure it out n less than 5 months.

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David Court's avatar

Next thought: Perhaps a time limit to allow for studying the bills of interest should be instituted. Even a brain wonder like Coach should not need five months to decide if he wants to approve an appointment.

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Bruce Brittain's avatar

Tuberville is exactly the type of person the majority of voters in Alabama want. Those voters and Tuberville are untethered from reality after 30+ years of the dis-information industry marinating their brains in lies, character assassinations, conspiracy theories and rumors of Satanic child abuse by democrats. "A democratic republic requires a well-informed electorate." James Madison. Folks, we're in trouble.

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JA's avatar

You mean Tommy T is not an embarrassment to the people of Alabama?

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Bruce Brittain's avatar

Surely you jest. I know, don't call me Shirley.

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Eric Foley's avatar

I think your claim of тАЬ30тАЭ is possibly missing a zero. Alabama was the heart of the resistance to the civil rights movement and the suggestion that all black activists were part of a communist plot, among other things, to say nothing of the misinformation campaigns that supported the Klan before that, and slavery before that. This has largely always been who the Deep South is, sadly.

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Lady Emsworth's avatar

Many areas of the deep south would never have been settled if they hadn't imported slaves - the climate was considered inimicable to whites, whereas Africans were "used" to the heat. also, it didn't matter that much if they died. I'm convinced that the reason so many Southerners cling to their racist beliefs is the guilt that they feel over that history. Too hard to admit they did something so bad.

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Joey J's avatar

I had the misfortune to listen to a presentation by someone from the SCV (Sons of Confederate Veterans). It's not so much that they feel any "guilt" over what was done in the past but rather, and I quote, "...nobody wants to feel bad about something their granddaddy did."

To put it another way, breeding (who you are, who your family is), is so very important down there. It's as if you're tainted by what your family did. So there's no way some will ever admit they position of the south and its insurrection to continue to own human beings was anything but a fight for "Stets Raht's."

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Hortense's avatar

I think another reform is for the hold to be directly related to the issue at hand. Opposing the abortion policy for the military is somewhat tangential, but in the past, other senators have put holds on legislation for things that have no relevance to that legislation.

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Hugh's avatar

In a sane world, Senate leadership would give Republicans an ultimatum: allow the confirmation votes by Monday, or vote a rule change to remove this unlimited hold mechanism for everyone. At that point the rest of the Republicans might decide to lean on Tuberville to stop.

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