I think we are missing each other here. I am NOT against primaries. Not at all. People tried to primary Joe but they weren’t great candidates and got killed. Now good candidates didn’t run for (1) because if they lost their career would be over and (2) they would have lost. It’s almost impossible to beat an incumbent president.
I think we are missing each other here. I am NOT against primaries. Not at all. People tried to primary Joe but they weren’t great candidates and got killed. Now good candidates didn’t run for (1) because if they lost their career would be over and (2) they would have lost. It’s almost impossible to beat an incumbent president.
We aren’t talking about that though. We are talking about a brokered convention in 7 weeks. First, and most importantly, it would require Biden to drop out. I don’t think he will but if he doesn’t there is NOTHING to be done. The delegates are LEGALLY required to vote for Joe Biden. They changed it after the disaster of 1968.
So let’s say he drops out. I don’t think he will but let’s say he does. I think we are hosed. First, the convention will be a shitshow. There will be massive protests against Israel. Why because these voters have their absolute BEST chance to get the next president to do something different. Maybe it works maybe it doesn’t but it will be crazy and look awful for Dems. Second, after the shitshow of the convention they choose a president and Vp. Whoever they choose has 3 major things working against them.
(1) most importantly no name ID. No matter how much of a junkie you are for politics most people won’t know ANYTHING about these candidates. I love politics but I couldn’t point out some of the “good” candidates in a lineup. More importantly, I have no idea where they stand on any of the major issues people will be voting on. Shoot even with my own governor, Gavin, I don’t know what he would do with Ukraine, Israel, climate, homelessness, guns, etc.
(2) no team. None of these people, other than Kamala has a presidential campaign team. None have run a national election.
(3) no money. They don’t just get Joe Biden’s money. Combine the 2 other above points you are in real trouble.
This is not to say it WONT work but people, I find, skip over how absolutely painful and potentially disastrous this could be. Not only that all the main contenders poll WORSE than Biden against Trump. Maybe that changes but it isn’t obvious why.
I think we are missing each other here. I am NOT against primaries. Not at all. People tried to primary Joe but they weren’t great candidates and got killed. Now good candidates didn’t run for (1) because if they lost their career would be over and (2) they would have lost. It’s almost impossible to beat an incumbent president.
We aren’t talking about that though. We are talking about a brokered convention in 7 weeks. First, and most importantly, it would require Biden to drop out. I don’t think he will but if he doesn’t there is NOTHING to be done. The delegates are LEGALLY required to vote for Joe Biden. They changed it after the disaster of 1968.
So let’s say he drops out. I don’t think he will but let’s say he does. I think we are hosed. First, the convention will be a shitshow. There will be massive protests against Israel. Why because these voters have their absolute BEST chance to get the next president to do something different. Maybe it works maybe it doesn’t but it will be crazy and look awful for Dems. Second, after the shitshow of the convention they choose a president and Vp. Whoever they choose has 3 major things working against them.
(1) most importantly no name ID. No matter how much of a junkie you are for politics most people won’t know ANYTHING about these candidates. I love politics but I couldn’t point out some of the “good” candidates in a lineup. More importantly, I have no idea where they stand on any of the major issues people will be voting on. Shoot even with my own governor, Gavin, I don’t know what he would do with Ukraine, Israel, climate, homelessness, guns, etc.
(2) no team. None of these people, other than Kamala has a presidential campaign team. None have run a national election.
(3) no money. They don’t just get Joe Biden’s money. Combine the 2 other above points you are in real trouble.
This is not to say it WONT work but people, I find, skip over how absolutely painful and potentially disastrous this could be. Not only that all the main contenders poll WORSE than Biden against Trump. Maybe that changes but it isn’t obvious why.