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Paul K. Ogden's avatar

So, let me get this straight. When Congress fails or is unable to act in a way that the President wants, that gives the authority to the President to act?

Hell no! That's not the way our constitutional system works. Will it take a Trump second term for you to understand how dangerous this idea is?

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Bush did it...Obama did it..we know Trump did it. EOs are not new. They aren't made up. They are legal unless deemed illegal by the judicial branch. If there is an illegal move here...bring the suit.

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Paul K. Ogden's avatar

Two wrongs don't equal a right. I criticized Obama and other Presidents when they took this approach. It is an incredibly dangerous idea that Congressional inaction authorizes a President to act.

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EOs are a legal method of enacting a policy by a president. The FBI was created by one. Presidents have a right to use them. The Congress can supersede them with laws. Don't miss the larger point here which is that a functional 3 branches of govt is needed. It does not exist right now. Call your congressional reps and tell them to act like a co equal branch of government!!

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Paul K. Ogden's avatar

Absolutely. But that is not what they are arguing. They are saying if Congress doesn't act, the President can. In fact the President's power is completely unrelated to Congress'.

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Scott Gaynor's avatar

So....

If you rob a store, it's only illegal if you are found guilty in a court?

Interesting take on how the law works....

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That is the stupidest thing IтАЩve heard since last week.

Someone тАЬbreaks intoтАЭ my house, is taking my possessions, but they arenтАЩt robbing me. Interesting logic you got there.

I guess if someone if found dead on the street with a knife in their head they werenтАЩt тАЬmurderedтАЭ until the killer is convicted.

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Scott Gaynor's avatar

Your conflating a legal definition (which is a very narrow one) with a reality.

Life isnтАЩt a courtroom.

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If you think something is only illegal/immoral only when decided by a courtтАж

A) youтАЩre part of whatтАЩs wrong with America today and,

B) your moral compass is pretty jacked up.

Wrong is wrong. Illegal is illegal - even if you donтАЩt get caught.

This should be an easy concept to grasp, but apparently itтАЩs is difficult for a great many people - yourself included.

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Scott Gaynor's avatar

Laws are just codified statements of a society's morals. But, with your position of:

"It's only illegal if I get convicted!"

You know who you sound like? Trump and every other criminal.

Yes, I am more than qualified to criticize your moral compass if this is your position. The fact that many people today think like you do is testament to the fact that we SHOULD be criticizing people for their "flexible" morals.

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