I'm coming to this comment thread late. I've been listening to and reading a lot of commentary since the debate.
Just to give some background, I have voted for democrats since the Clinton era, I have donated to Obama, Hillary, democratic congressional candidates, and democratic primary campaigns (I donated to Kamala & Cory Booker). I am a…
I'm coming to this comment thread late. I've been listening to and reading a lot of commentary since the debate.
Just to give some background, I have voted for democrats since the Clinton era, I have donated to Obama, Hillary, democratic congressional candidates, and democratic primary campaigns (I donated to Kamala & Cory Booker). I am a middle aged Black democrat. I vote & donate. I am surrounded by other middle class Black dems, all college educated centrist dems.
I love what the Bulwark has done in opposing Trump & Trumpism. I listen to a number of your podcasts. Unfortunately, I think you guys have a blindspot when it comes to race as it relates to the 2024 election. Tim & JVL come the closest to understanding.
If you think that Black voters will show up if Biden bows out and is replaced by Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro, instead of Kamala, you guys need to talk to more Black people. BTW, I listened to the Focus Group podcast with Maryland democrats. For all of the complaints about Angela Alsobrooks, when push came to shove she absolutely smoked her primary opponent.
The dems have not won the White vote since the 1960s, the only way they win is getting somewhere around 40% of the White vote with decent to high turnout amongst Black voters with 85-90% of the vote share. There is no way you get both of those things if Kamala is leapfrogged.
For better or worse it is Biden or, if something goes wrong, Kamala. That's it. There is no magical "White Centrist" savior to come in. Also, don't think that dumping Kamala and putting a Black guy (Warnock or Wes Moore) will get it done.
It is unfortunate that we are in the situation we are in at the moment but we've got the "coach the team we've got"
I'm coming to this comment thread late. I've been listening to and reading a lot of commentary since the debate.
Just to give some background, I have voted for democrats since the Clinton era, I have donated to Obama, Hillary, democratic congressional candidates, and democratic primary campaigns (I donated to Kamala & Cory Booker). I am a middle aged Black democrat. I vote & donate. I am surrounded by other middle class Black dems, all college educated centrist dems.
I love what the Bulwark has done in opposing Trump & Trumpism. I listen to a number of your podcasts. Unfortunately, I think you guys have a blindspot when it comes to race as it relates to the 2024 election. Tim & JVL come the closest to understanding.
If you think that Black voters will show up if Biden bows out and is replaced by Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro, instead of Kamala, you guys need to talk to more Black people. BTW, I listened to the Focus Group podcast with Maryland democrats. For all of the complaints about Angela Alsobrooks, when push came to shove she absolutely smoked her primary opponent.
The dems have not won the White vote since the 1960s, the only way they win is getting somewhere around 40% of the White vote with decent to high turnout amongst Black voters with 85-90% of the vote share. There is no way you get both of those things if Kamala is leapfrogged.
For better or worse it is Biden or, if something goes wrong, Kamala. That's it. There is no magical "White Centrist" savior to come in. Also, don't think that dumping Kamala and putting a Black guy (Warnock or Wes Moore) will get it done.
It is unfortunate that we are in the situation we are in at the moment but we've got the "coach the team we've got"