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CroneEver's avatar

I read the article / book review on Chris Miller, and his attitude is like many ex-military I've met. One, who'd taken up a second job after retiring at the courthouse where I was Circuit Administrator at the time, said openly that the civilian world wasn't worth fighting for - no morals, no discipline, just a bunch of spoiled rotten brats. "In the military, we'd have thrown all these folks over the wall." And the judge for whom I worked looked him over and said, "Welcome to the other side of the wall." There's a reason some people stay in the military "for life", and that reason is exactly why need to have civilian control of our government. Any government.

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A response to Damon Linker on yesterday’s Bulwark podcast:

Damon decries the way DeSantis is addressing people learning uncomfortable information, but shares his distaste for anyone having to learn something that troubles them.

I can’t remember his exact quote, but he said something to the effect that “we can always hope wokeism just recedes like earlier iterations of attempts to address inequalities in the past, such as the civil rights era of the 60’s”

Here are the kinds of things Damon would prefer not to confront comfortable people with:

In medicine—disparities in access to health care; to maternal mortality rates; to the provision of pain relief; to the choice of cancer care; to likelihood of antibiotic treatment.

In law enforcement—disparities in policing, not just brutality, but rates of traffic stops, searches, no-knock searches; likelihood of the use of deadly force in an arrest; prosecutorial decision making; sentencing recommendations.

In education—over-identification of minority children for discipline and special education; the importance to children of teachers and educational material in which they can see themselves; what history we teach (Charlie, you were surprised not to have learned of the Tulsa massacres before—that’s history that makes some people uncomfortable)

In finance—disparities in which type of home loan people are offered; lower likelihood of business loans to minorities.

The IRS—over-indexing poor people and minorities for audit

In HR—discrepancies in likelihood of even an interview based on name

In engineering—worse road design and fewer green spaces in minority neighborhoods leading to higher traffic death rates and heat island effects; relatively poor while more expensive internet access in minority neighborhoods; problems with water supply in poor and minority areas.

I could go on and on, and have only addressed race, which is not the only type of “wokeism” bemoaned by Charlie and Damon.

Maybe Damon is right and the style of DEI in many corporations is off-putting to the non-progressive. There is room to discuss that, but speaking for my own field, medicine: it’s part of how we make progress to notice when things are working and when they aren’t. It hasn’t always been done as it should. I assure you, many of the health care providers who make disparate decisions in care don’t have any idea that they are systematically making choices that are influenced by the race of the patient, but the numbers are clear that it happens all the time. How can that change if no one is even allowed to present the evidence, or have a conversation about it?

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