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EnderAK08's avatar

Nikki Haley has about as good of odds of becoming President as I do. So, enderak08 2024?

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TW Falcon's avatar

Can I be your campaign manager? I hear they make big bucks.

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R Mercer's avatar

Just as an aside, whenever I see your username, it immediately takes me to the Orson Scott Card book Ender's Game.

Good book.

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Eastern Promises's avatar

Same thing I was thinking.

Sadly the author has become a bit of quack. Sad!!

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R Mercer's avatar

Has he? TBH I do not follow the personal lives of artists (I count writers among artists). Probably because I am one myself and have no burning desire/need to discover what makes them tick.

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Alondra's avatar

You might have my vote. But first, can you state your position on these important issues?

Kitty litter in school bathrooms.

Teaching kids to be gay via math textbooks.

Preventing children from experiencing discomfort by reading books that have not undergone

rigorous scrutiny.

Requiring birth certificates, photo ID's, recent utility bills with address, signed statement from

someone other than yourself verifying your identity, in order to vote. And, of course, outlaw

vote by mail or drop boxes.

Will donate if I like what I see.

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EnderAK08's avatar

Ma'am have you considered institutionalization?

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Alondra's avatar

Aren't we all semi-institutionalized by our current House? When the crazies have the keys. (Kevin will never leave that woman.)

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TomD's avatar

I admired Haley for taking down the rebel flag when she was governor, and I expected her to have the grit to push back at Trump. No luck.

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Maryah Haidery's avatar

Except she waffled on that in the same way she waffled on Trump. She opposed multiple calls to take down the flag and tried to do a compromise in 2000 where it would be moved from the top of the Capitol building to a nearby flagpole. She finally agreed to it after the outrage following Dylan RoofтАЩs massacre at a black church.

I mean IтАЩm glad she did finally did agree to take it down. But in 2015, it shouldnтАЩt take years of political calculations and a mass shooting by a white supremacist for a politician to realize that maybe the whole тАЬconfederacy glorificationтАЭ that the South has reveled in since the Civil Rights Act was maybe not the best idea.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/confederate-flag-furor/gov-haley-sign-bill-removing-confederate-flag-n389231

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Howid's avatar

Thank you for reminding those who might have forgotten. SheтАЩs as much of a spineless worm as Lindsey Graham.

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Frank's avatar

That is exactly why she will never be president. She won't even win the SC primary. The base hates her for that reason.

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Eastern Promises's avatar

If its between you and her, you have my vote.

#EnderAK0824POTUS

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Kevin Robbins's avatar

When does she start attacking Ron Global RINO DeSantis?

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Paul K. Ogden's avatar

Yeah, hard pass on Nikki Haley as the nominee.

I would definitely support Asa Hutchinson and probably Brian Kemp. And of course, I'd support Larry Hogan.

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Catie's avatar

Hogan said he'll support trump, if he gets the R nomination. So I'm not sure how he's any better.

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Linda Oliver's avatar

Shoot. Another one bites the dust.

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Linda Oliver's avatar

I respect Hutchinson and Hogan. Not many Republicans I do anymore.

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R Mercer's avatar

I do not support any of those people, except in the VERY narrow context of GoP PoS against other GoP PoS.

Registered Republican since 1980 which, I guess, these days makes me a RINO

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Rick A.'s avatar

That ship of the Republican Party has SAILED. Are you kidding? I do not understand why people still try to resurrect it. It is not happening for the foreseeable future. If Larry Hogan is the nominee in 2024, I owe you a lot of money.

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

Brian Kemp has the same autocratic tendencies as DeSantis. His policies are identical. He devoted himself to suppressing the vote in GA.

I have no idea why people think heтАЩs a moderate, except perhaps because he didnтАЩt fold to Trump.

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Catie's avatar

Kim, that's precisely why people think he's moderate, because he didn't cave to trump on the 2020 election. And that's it. You're right. As a Georgia citizen, I know: Kemp is NO moderate.

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Maryah Haidery's avatar

He didnтАЩt agree to overrule the results of the Georgia elections but he didnтАЩt condemn Trump either. In fact, he publicly agreed to support Trump if he was the nominee. WeтАЩve come to believe that not agreeing to do something egregiously illegal or immoral because Trump asked you to is a sign of courage. Maybe because so many of his minions failed in that respect (eg Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, Guliani, Eastman, etc )тАжbut objectively, itтАЩs a fairly low bar.

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

Yep, and he, Raffensberger, and Sterling all voted for Trump.

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Eastern Promises's avatar

Pretty much it.

Also, Kemp doesn't seem to be overtly racist like say DeSantis (or Trump). However, he has to do that: GA is 38 percent AA and if they get pissed and turnout to vote, then the GOP will lose.

Kemp had done what pretty much every successful GOP elected official has done since the late 1990's: run for the White North Georgia redneck vote in the primary, and then move center in the general, and then govern at the behest of the Atlanta Metro Corporate elite. They have no choice. The Atlanta Metro is too large and too economically important to mess with. If you step too far out of line you will end up like David Purdue, Herschel Walker and Kelly Loeffler (aka "Buckhead Barbie"). Those guys all lost because they lost the Atlanta Metro by so much that even overwhelming support from rural North Georgia was not enough to overcome it.

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

I donтАЩt think actively suppressing the vote is moving to the center.

And the idea is that if most people in the state vote for somebody, that person wins. The GOP doesnтАЩt have job security, no matter what they think ought to happen to keep the AAs in line.

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Eastern Promises's avatar

I said he moved to the center as a symbol. He is no centrist by any means, but he does attempt to play one on TV, and sometimes that is all you need to do.

Also, I have to disagree with you on the voter suppression stuff. The reason Dems don't get more Black votes is because Black voters are increasingly becoming irritated with them. The fact is, the Black vote was down throughout the country, not just in GA and not just in the South. If it were merely due to laws passed by Republicans, then explain Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly, Richmond (in 2021), NYC, etc?

Clearly, there is something going on here. The Dems would be wise to figure it out.

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

You only have to listen to interviews with Raffensberger and Sterling to understand that voter suppression was the point. Or compare the number of polling places in Atlanta to those in Buckhead, for example.

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Josh's avatar

He also was the first GOP governor to go full on team virus, so much so that Trump rebuked him for recklessness.

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Eastern Promises's avatar

His decision to reopen was widely supported, across racial, ethnic and even party lines. Most people understood that we could not stay locked up in our houses for 6 months. Just was not feasible.

The reopening had strict requirements and was not forced; many stores still chose not to reopen and those that did had stringent mask requirements. Again, I live here and experienced it firsthand; going out in Atlanta during that time was like living in Beijing or some other Asian Metropolis: everyone was wearing masks.

The other thing he did well was distributing the vaccine. He set up gigantic vaccine distribution centers where people could go and get their shots, no charge. Same for testing as well.

While I am no fan of his and did not vote for him, I think he was reelected precisely because of his response to the pandemic. He also is not an a-hole like DeSantis, which at the very least makes him less unlikable. Its just that GA is more Democratic than FL, mainly due to Black voters. So the GOP will never win in GA by the margins they do in FL.

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Josh's avatar

Not being from the area I can't speak to the local support, but I will point out that he executive-ordered a prohibition against local mask mandates.

Also one point on the vaccine distribution- it was free of charge all over the country, though if he had a good distribution network then that is a credit to him.

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Looks like statistically this is backfiring on them. African Americans lag behind whites in vaccine use by a few points, but when you put a political lens on it, they'd be well ahead of white Republicans.

And vaccine use or non-use is a very likely cause of the higher excess mortality rates being seen in Republicans.

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Maryah Haidery's avatar

Completely agree! Plus he also supported the 6 week anti-abortion тАЬheartbeat billтАЭ so with Kemp as president we might get suppression of voting (read: black) rights and a bonus suppression of womenтАЩs rights in one package!

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Kenney Joe Pierce, Jr.'s avatar

Without knowing who the Dem nominee is?

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

We know who the Democratic nominee is.

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Kenney Joe Pierce, Jr.'s avatar

No we don't. That's a silly thing to say.

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Kevin Robbins's avatar

Jim Geraghty had a column in the WaPo yesterday on how Sununu should not run for president and continue to govern NH and everyone should just coalesce around New Savior Ron. IтАЩm thinking the backup plan is to just jump back on the Trump Train when DeSantis turns into Fred Thompson.

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Mary's avatar

Do you have any campaign merch yet? I could be persuaded!

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EnderAK08's avatar

Not yet but I can start belting out "never Trump 2024" bumper stickers.

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R Mercer's avatar

Hats. Hats are where it's at.

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orbit's avatar

Don't forget the flags!

They complete the ensemble.

A cap on top.

And a flag to wrap oneself in.

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Kevin Robbins's avatar

The NY Times had an article recently that reported the only ones floating Stefanik as a potential Veep candidate with Trump were people around Stefanik. Sounds right to me. Also, if Trump get into the WH there should be a ? after тАЬlast.тАЭ I remember his saying during the Mueller investigation that he deserved extra time because of it. HeтАЩd never willingly leave the presidency.

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R Mercer's avatar

I guess in some universe that makes sense or seems like a good plan.

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