Here to say the Dispatch conversation with Jamie was pitch perfect. I have “problems” with the student loan forgiveness too but who gives a $hit after January 6.
Here to say the Dispatch conversation with Jamie was pitch perfect. I have “problems” with the student loan forgiveness too but who gives a $hit after January 6.
Hey Geoff, totally agree. I listened to Tim's podcast with Jamie Weinstein of the Dispatch as well this morning. Jamie was doing his best to get Tim in a gotcha hold. Tim played debate jiu jitsu masterfully. The exploration of the "Dispatchian - Bulwarkian divide" (Weinstein's phrasing) was illuminating and brought the recent Steve Hays visit to Bulwark podcast back to mind. The Dispatch gets so much correctly, but I just don't see how they can admit the horror of Trump's morality and existential danger but still say "the likely Trump outcome is better than the likely Biden outcome"; when a very plausible/possible (though maybe not numerically most likely) Trump outcome is a hellscape. This isn't even a super low probability disastrous outcome "black swan". This is truly "long tail" risk as Tim describes that is highly possible and can easily be the outcome. Bulwarkian logic won't stand for the risk.
I think the Dispatch felt the moral force of David French while he was there. Now that he’s gone they’ve taken a step back. David would have never signed off on that opinion piece, in my opinion.
Hahaha. He is annoying because he sees it. He knows what has happened. He can describe what is and has happened to the Republican Party but has a reflexive impulse to bash democrats. It’s weird actually to be an intellectual but not be able to say what you truly see because you might piss off your friends at NRO (who are fully insane).
I also appreciate how Tim talks about the longtail of Bill Clinton and his inappropriate relationships. It’s one thing for a guy to have an affair, then he and his wife put their lives back together. We all know people in that position. But getting a blowjob from a 21-year-old intern when you’re the president? That is a direct line to people accepting Trump. And I love that the Bulwark can say that.
But isn't the complaint about the former president that he falsified records to cover up the facts so as to protect his candidacy. This was in the aftermath of his taped comments about assaulting women. It's not about the fact that he had an affair. I don't see a straight line between Clinton's act and the former president's.
I'm going to say the lies about Vietnam, Watergate, Iran-Contra, and so on did more to set up Trump than Clinton, but people who think Reagan was a good POTUS need a good lie to sell themselves.
The reality is, the back-to-back of Dubya & Obama were probably the longest stretch of personally moral adult lives of President's in history by modern standards. Add in Biden, and ignore Trump and America actually has a decent record, putting aside terrible policy decisions, outside of the blinking orange wrong decision
I'm 100% sure it's a better world and the Bushes as a family are better off if Jeb wins in '94, Dubya doesn't decide to run for POTUS in '00 and his brother does instead as was the plan, Jeb loses to Gore because he's less charismatic than Dubya, and Dubya becomes a 'viral' star for throwing a strike at a baseball game after 9/11, and become MLB Commissioner in 2005, and the Bushes slowly fade to be the one of many formerly powerful Yankee Republican families that basically become libs by now, without any worry of the scions political future.
Instead of appeasing MAGA, George P. Bush is the President of the Rangers or whatever.
But yeah, even as a left-wing college student, I couldn't pull the hate for Dubya in '04 that I could for Cheney, Rumsfeld, or even Condi.
Here to say the Dispatch conversation with Jamie was pitch perfect. I have “problems” with the student loan forgiveness too but who gives a $hit after January 6.
Hey Geoff, totally agree. I listened to Tim's podcast with Jamie Weinstein of the Dispatch as well this morning. Jamie was doing his best to get Tim in a gotcha hold. Tim played debate jiu jitsu masterfully. The exploration of the "Dispatchian - Bulwarkian divide" (Weinstein's phrasing) was illuminating and brought the recent Steve Hays visit to Bulwark podcast back to mind. The Dispatch gets so much correctly, but I just don't see how they can admit the horror of Trump's morality and existential danger but still say "the likely Trump outcome is better than the likely Biden outcome"; when a very plausible/possible (though maybe not numerically most likely) Trump outcome is a hellscape. This isn't even a super low probability disastrous outcome "black swan". This is truly "long tail" risk as Tim describes that is highly possible and can easily be the outcome. Bulwarkian logic won't stand for the risk.
I think the Dispatch felt the moral force of David French while he was there. Now that he’s gone they’ve taken a step back. David would have never signed off on that opinion piece, in my opinion.
Exactly. I find that David was the most self reflecting of the bunch.
Jonah wants to be until he finds out about kids using kitty litter boxes in Oakland
Hahaha. He is annoying because he sees it. He knows what has happened. He can describe what is and has happened to the Republican Party but has a reflexive impulse to bash democrats. It’s weird actually to be an intellectual but not be able to say what you truly see because you might piss off your friends at NRO (who are fully insane).
I assume Jay Nordlinger works from him lol. Tim, you should have Jay on.
Nro is so useless. Just reactionaries
I also appreciate how Tim talks about the longtail of Bill Clinton and his inappropriate relationships. It’s one thing for a guy to have an affair, then he and his wife put their lives back together. We all know people in that position. But getting a blowjob from a 21-year-old intern when you’re the president? That is a direct line to people accepting Trump. And I love that the Bulwark can say that.
But isn't the complaint about the former president that he falsified records to cover up the facts so as to protect his candidacy. This was in the aftermath of his taped comments about assaulting women. It's not about the fact that he had an affair. I don't see a straight line between Clinton's act and the former president's.
I'm going to say the lies about Vietnam, Watergate, Iran-Contra, and so on did more to set up Trump than Clinton, but people who think Reagan was a good POTUS need a good lie to sell themselves.
The reality is, the back-to-back of Dubya & Obama were probably the longest stretch of personally moral adult lives of President's in history by modern standards. Add in Biden, and ignore Trump and America actually has a decent record, putting aside terrible policy decisions, outside of the blinking orange wrong decision
Bush and Obama really were solid humans.
I'm 100% sure it's a better world and the Bushes as a family are better off if Jeb wins in '94, Dubya doesn't decide to run for POTUS in '00 and his brother does instead as was the plan, Jeb loses to Gore because he's less charismatic than Dubya, and Dubya becomes a 'viral' star for throwing a strike at a baseball game after 9/11, and become MLB Commissioner in 2005, and the Bushes slowly fade to be the one of many formerly powerful Yankee Republican families that basically become libs by now, without any worry of the scions political future.
Instead of appeasing MAGA, George P. Bush is the President of the Rangers or whatever.
But yeah, even as a left-wing college student, I couldn't pull the hate for Dubya in '04 that I could for Cheney, Rumsfeld, or even Condi.