On the specific point of Americans souring on college, it's notable that Schumer's five buckets of affordability did not include college or educational costs. Surely, that was because pollsters are telling them to win back the votes of the less educated. Democrats have also been put on the defensive (as always) by the GOP over supposed "wokeness" in academia and over the student loan issue under Biden. Was loan forgiveness preferential treatment for those who choose colleges?
Seems to me, they could make a case for educating Americans, particularly in STEM, precisely because we're losing so many immigrants. It need not prejudice the many Americans who do not choose college and make their own important contributions to all of us, if we, as a society, contribute to the education of those who fulfill roles that benefit us all.
A King Solomon style solution would be to issue a card to college-hating citizens: "I will not accept any medical examinations, procedures, tests or treatments administered, developed, or analyzed by anyone who has attended college." Put it to the test, and the problem solves itself.
trump loves the uneducated because he can dupe them with his lies and convince them that his criminality is for the good of America, not his personal gain.
But he can't cull the smart so easily...that's a factor of genes.
People have been stopped from re-entry into the USA in Turkey. Some site a Facebook post as reason enough. I know of at least one Nigerian who had to resign from a job here. They went to their home country for a family emergency.
NIH is rejecting grants for studying breast cancer if the word “woman/women” is on application.
Fulbright applications cannot have the word “climate”.
I’m retired and relieved that I don’t have to navigate keeping a biomedical research lab functioning in this environment. When I was working our lab with four senior scientists had six to eight H1-B scholars who came from around the world to work with us. Some stayed for six months, others for up to two years. While their main purpose was to learn from us, the contributions in terms of different perspectives aided us in expanding our research. As I think back, I suspect the scholars who came from Europe would probably be allowed to get the visa. Those who came from Asia, North Africa, and South America would have difficulty. Miller would approve the first group and dismiss the second group.
Catherine - would like to see you interview Gary Stevenson author of "The Trading Game" and has the YouTube channel Garys Economics https://www.youtube.com/@garyseconomics about income inequality.
So Alex Pretti was in their database from a previous encounter, they recognized him few days later and targeted him... It adds up. Now we just need a little evidence. Somebody knows of course.
Do not forget the message this sends to talented US undergraduates. Don’t go through the arduous process of getting a stem PhD because you will have no future help from the fed. For this alone Trump should be impeached and removed. A stupid thug indeed.
I don't know what or where "you came out of" - but it's not anywhere near reality.
Personal education is "on the individual" - because no one is tying that person's butt to anything.
It's called "...going out to get something literature to read, not get an a cell-phone and get lied to.
The knowledge from those test books, not b.s. books - can be used to elevate themselves.
It's called "...self-respect..."; and "...self-determination..." of the individual: which is something that certain people have "decided to forget about.
There are no off-ramps in real life - just excuses that lazy people will take as an offramp for taking responsibility for their one lives - if they ae offered one.
So if your really interested in fixing things - "stop-it" with the stupid off-ramps.
I don't know what Trump thinks he is doing but he will turn this country into a third world country while he drives it into bankruptcy or whatever a country does when it can't meet its debts.
Stupid is as stupid does. History will so judge Trump's admins.
They have inverted the pyramid on skills and ntelligence, putting and prioritizing the least talented on top (all done w the gleeful approval of the MAGA), w the weight of the upside down pyramid oppressing and eliminating what used to be the top.
A typical example would be their attemp to eliminate as much as possible all renewable energy programs and allow adversaries like China lead, who already have a huge lead in electric cars and lithium batteries. Of course, the fossilized MAGA are totally onboard.
Brilliant, if your goal is a race to the bottom of the ranking of countries.
Thank you for putting specific numbers to this weakening of America innovation and international influence. Trump has also taken drastic actions to stupify American youth by eliminating and reducing funds to public ed programs. I briefly substitute taught Chicago inner city grade schools kids and saw how much Head Start kids were ahead of their peers in basic skills and social skills. (I have worked with many H-1B Ph.Ds in the semiconductor industry that filled engineering roles that could not be filled by available USA Ph.Ds.)
You are right to highlight, and connect the dots of, one of the (many) offenses against the people of the US by this administration, the intentional degrading of our educational system.
Catherine, Thanks for the hard work in putting this extensive piece together. It was very informative and made the point crystal clear. Of course, Trump would be doing things to make our country stupider, he wants to make the country in his image. Let's face it, he is one of the stupidest people in America, surpassed only by the people that voted for him. The real morons, however, are the people that despite all the evidence to the contrary, think this clown is playing four level chess. Trust me, this guy would be perplexed playing Klondike Solitaire. How many people do you know that could claim, unabashedly, that they lowered drug prices by 600%? Honestly, he should be made to wear a permanent dunce cap and stand in a corner.
"we have developed the strongest military, the most cutting-edge tech companies, and global dominance in the fields of science and medical research"
* We will still have a strong military, but it will be split into two: a national defense force (deployed within the US) and what we now know as the military. Look at it this way, in a fitting comparison to where we are going as a nation. The internal military units used for policing the Homeland:
◾ Secret Field Police (Geheime Feldpolizei): Plainclothes, undercover secret military police that act as the arm of military intelligence tasked with tracking resistance and its leaders, and conducting counterintelligence. And the
◾ Order Police Battalions (Ordnungspolizei): Militarized, uniformed police units, involved in myriad atrocities.
* Cutting edge companies, tech or otherwise, will still have access too highly trained employees except it will be like the Dark Ages with the Church (read government) picking who goes beyond the basics.
* Unfortunately the sciences and medical research will suffer greatly since the government will set strict limits on what is acceptable to be studied based on prejudices.
This is all heartbreakingly stupid. It literally hurts my soul to watch this happen.
On the specific point of Americans souring on college, it's notable that Schumer's five buckets of affordability did not include college or educational costs. Surely, that was because pollsters are telling them to win back the votes of the less educated. Democrats have also been put on the defensive (as always) by the GOP over supposed "wokeness" in academia and over the student loan issue under Biden. Was loan forgiveness preferential treatment for those who choose colleges?
Seems to me, they could make a case for educating Americans, particularly in STEM, precisely because we're losing so many immigrants. It need not prejudice the many Americans who do not choose college and make their own important contributions to all of us, if we, as a society, contribute to the education of those who fulfill roles that benefit us all.
A King Solomon style solution would be to issue a card to college-hating citizens: "I will not accept any medical examinations, procedures, tests or treatments administered, developed, or analyzed by anyone who has attended college." Put it to the test, and the problem solves itself.
trump loves the uneducated because he can dupe them with his lies and convince them that his criminality is for the good of America, not his personal gain.
But he can't cull the smart so easily...that's a factor of genes.
People have been stopped from re-entry into the USA in Turkey. Some site a Facebook post as reason enough. I know of at least one Nigerian who had to resign from a job here. They went to their home country for a family emergency.
NIH is rejecting grants for studying breast cancer if the word “woman/women” is on application.
Fulbright applications cannot have the word “climate”.
I’m retired and relieved that I don’t have to navigate keeping a biomedical research lab functioning in this environment. When I was working our lab with four senior scientists had six to eight H1-B scholars who came from around the world to work with us. Some stayed for six months, others for up to two years. While their main purpose was to learn from us, the contributions in terms of different perspectives aided us in expanding our research. As I think back, I suspect the scholars who came from Europe would probably be allowed to get the visa. Those who came from Asia, North Africa, and South America would have difficulty. Miller would approve the first group and dismiss the second group.
Catherine - would like to see you interview Gary Stevenson author of "The Trading Game" and has the YouTube channel Garys Economics https://www.youtube.com/@garyseconomics about income inequality.
So Alex Pretti was in their database from a previous encounter, they recognized him few days later and targeted him... It adds up. Now we just need a little evidence. Somebody knows of course.
Absolutely
Do not forget the message this sends to talented US undergraduates. Don’t go through the arduous process of getting a stem PhD because you will have no future help from the fed. For this alone Trump should be impeached and removed. A stupid thug indeed.
Ms. Rampell,
I don't know what or where "you came out of" - but it's not anywhere near reality.
Personal education is "on the individual" - because no one is tying that person's butt to anything.
It's called "...going out to get something literature to read, not get an a cell-phone and get lied to.
The knowledge from those test books, not b.s. books - can be used to elevate themselves.
It's called "...self-respect..."; and "...self-determination..." of the individual: which is something that certain people have "decided to forget about.
There are no off-ramps in real life - just excuses that lazy people will take as an offramp for taking responsibility for their one lives - if they ae offered one.
So if your really interested in fixing things - "stop-it" with the stupid off-ramps.
"Old man yells at...well, it's not clear."
I would say this is a bot, but has an air of entitlement that AI isn't quite up to yet.
Somebody take the keys away from grandpa! Give him a set to play with, but make sure it doesn’t run anything—especially US.
Huh?
I don't know what Trump thinks he is doing but he will turn this country into a third world country while he drives it into bankruptcy or whatever a country does when it can't meet its debts.
I think you mean a "shit hole" country, which is kinda what he wants for us...
Stupid is as stupid does. History will so judge Trump's admins.
They have inverted the pyramid on skills and ntelligence, putting and prioritizing the least talented on top (all done w the gleeful approval of the MAGA), w the weight of the upside down pyramid oppressing and eliminating what used to be the top.
A typical example would be their attemp to eliminate as much as possible all renewable energy programs and allow adversaries like China lead, who already have a huge lead in electric cars and lithium batteries. Of course, the fossilized MAGA are totally onboard.
Brilliant, if your goal is a race to the bottom of the ranking of countries.
Thank you for putting specific numbers to this weakening of America innovation and international influence. Trump has also taken drastic actions to stupify American youth by eliminating and reducing funds to public ed programs. I briefly substitute taught Chicago inner city grade schools kids and saw how much Head Start kids were ahead of their peers in basic skills and social skills. (I have worked with many H-1B Ph.Ds in the semiconductor industry that filled engineering roles that could not be filled by available USA Ph.Ds.)
You are right to highlight, and connect the dots of, one of the (many) offenses against the people of the US by this administration, the intentional degrading of our educational system.
At least you are making us a little smarter.....
Catherine, Thanks for the hard work in putting this extensive piece together. It was very informative and made the point crystal clear. Of course, Trump would be doing things to make our country stupider, he wants to make the country in his image. Let's face it, he is one of the stupidest people in America, surpassed only by the people that voted for him. The real morons, however, are the people that despite all the evidence to the contrary, think this clown is playing four level chess. Trust me, this guy would be perplexed playing Klondike Solitaire. How many people do you know that could claim, unabashedly, that they lowered drug prices by 600%? Honestly, he should be made to wear a permanent dunce cap and stand in a corner.
"“I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED,” Donald Trump [sic] once declared. That was back in 2016, during his first presidential campaign."
And in 2024 they showed him they loved him also and would defend him against anything, including reality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69vhHbqQaH4
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"we have developed the strongest military, the most cutting-edge tech companies, and global dominance in the fields of science and medical research"
* We will still have a strong military, but it will be split into two: a national defense force (deployed within the US) and what we now know as the military. Look at it this way, in a fitting comparison to where we are going as a nation. The internal military units used for policing the Homeland:
◾ Secret Field Police (Geheime Feldpolizei): Plainclothes, undercover secret military police that act as the arm of military intelligence tasked with tracking resistance and its leaders, and conducting counterintelligence. And the
◾ Order Police Battalions (Ordnungspolizei): Militarized, uniformed police units, involved in myriad atrocities.
* Cutting edge companies, tech or otherwise, will still have access too highly trained employees except it will be like the Dark Ages with the Church (read government) picking who goes beyond the basics.
* Unfortunately the sciences and medical research will suffer greatly since the government will set strict limits on what is acceptable to be studied based on prejudices.
fnord