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Patrice Thomas's avatar

I can hardly read the news anymore- just want to cry in despair! Thank goodness for the world cup - the happy scenes from around the country are awesome 👏

Randy Mautz's avatar

I can’t even look at a Trump voter anymore

Steve Crimmin's avatar

This is the Trump/MAGA/Republican Plan for combating rising global temperatures and sea level: ignore it and stop measuring it so as not to alarm the cult or other citizens who remain asleep to the compounding dangers around us. With no measurement going on, anyone's "opinion" is as good as any "woke" scientist's prediction. It's a childish belief that what we don't know can't hurt us The rising tide of ignorance engulfing the U.S. is even scarier than the rising sea levels.

James Cartledge's avatar

The trouble is we see 32 nice beach houses fall into the sea and think, ah well, you probably shouldn’t have bought a house on the beach anyway. And you’re probably loaded to have got a house on the beach so. Meanwhile the sea level creeps up, and New Orleans is under water along with half of Louisiana and Florida and millions of people lose their homes and Hurricane Katrina looks like a slightly disruptive rainstorm by comparison. Trump has dismantled the scientific apparatus because it is highlighting the bad things that his billionaire friends are doing to the planet. There’s no hidden conspiracy, it’s all out in the open. This is what happens when psychopaths are in charge.

John P's avatar

When you don’t understand how anything works, everything is a conspiracy and easily demagogued. This isn’t just a Trump problem, it’s an American right wing issue. The reactionary mindset has been strong on the right since the 60s, and it’s really ballooned since the 90s. Cutting stuff like this is death cult level stupid, just with a few extra steps.

Trump did not invent the Republican zeal against government, nor did he make our population deeply apathetic to important stuff like this.

Christopher Wood's avatar

This is further evidence of the hatred ignorant people hold for the "elites," that is, people who respect knowledge and scientific advancement.

On that note, I'm surprised that Trump keeps going to the doctors at Walter Reed, when he has his "health experts," Kennedy and Oz, on staff.

Gene Gietzen's avatar

This is an example of trump's stupidity. He closes the global ocean monitoring system that helps with hurricanes, mainly in Florida where he has a home - Mar-A-Lago, which could be in the path of the storm. Also knowing trump, he would be the first in line to get government assistances. Let's look at what research has said about this:

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Trump's administration has been criticized for undermining scientific integrity and sidelining scientific expertise in decision-making, which suggests a lack of understanding or appreciation for the value of science. Additionally, his policies have been associated with anti-science activism, impacting public health and safety.

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Understanding of Science in Trump's Administration

Criticism of Scientific Integrity

Trump's administration has faced significant criticism for undermining scientific integrity. Key issues include:

Sidelining Expertise: The administration often excluded scientific experts from decision-making processes.

Suppressing Studies: Scientific studies that contradicted the administration's agenda were frequently suppressed.

Vacant Positions: Many science-related positions were left unfilled, further diminishing the role of scientific advice in policy-making.

Impact on Public Health and Safety

The policies enacted during Trump's presidency have been linked to anti-science activism, which has had detrimental effects on public health. Notable consequences include:

Resurgence of Diseases: There was a notable increase in cases of whooping cough and measles, attributed to anti-vaccine sentiments promoted by the administration.

Cuts to Research Funding: Significant cuts to scientific research funding were made, some of which were deemed illegal by courts.

Conclusion: Overall, the actions and policies of Trump's administration suggest a lack of understanding or appreciation for the value of science, particularly in relation to public health and safety.

Susan Conard's avatar

Another genuinely stupid move on the part of the Trump administration.

Jeffrey Gaines's avatar

Defunding such data-gathering systems is “stupid on stilts,” as Tom Tillis would say, or perhaps it’s more like greed on stilts.

Trump is modeling a Putin-style oligarchy/kleptocracy.

He (and the likes of henchman Vought) want to slash even very cost effective programs and agencies, and replace them with privateers from the Republican donor class. The more successful a government program is, and the more investment it merits given positive outcomes, the less Trumpists like it.

Trump plans to somehow “take it with him,” all the money he’s earned in a long career of lying, selling snake oil, suing to avoid payment of debt, etc.

He doesn’t care about pollution and climate change wrecking havoc on peoples’ lives all over the world. All he cares about is amassing wealth, punishing his perceived enemies, and rewarding his big donors w close-to-zero regulation and uncontested gov. contracts.

Carol S.'s avatar

It's funny that the Trump administration's list of problematic words includes "ideology," considering how often right-wingers use it as a pejorative for viewpoints they disagree with. Also, what do they have against clean water, or water storage, or water treatment?

The people who wrote and are driving Trump's agenda will all insist that they are committed to putting "truth" above "ideology," but it's clear that they have made some ideological decisions about what is true or not, and they're aiming to rearrange the enterprise of scientific enquiry to align with their preconceptions. For example: "Climate change is a hoax," and therefore it's imperative to dismantle any systems that might yield data showing otherwise.

Trumpy ideologues claim that science - or 'science" - was heavily politicized by leftist academics, and that they are restoring "truth and sanity" to it. But requiring research grants to get explicitly political approval demonstrates the hypocrisy at work.

Emilio Verdugo's avatar

He has never missed an opportunity to make the most absolutely wrong decisions, all to support his make believe "reality" to which he subjects the American people. Kind of raises an interesting philosophical question: Is evil banal or is it malignant? In the case of trump, it turns out that his evil actions are a heady brew of stupidity and rash targeted cruelty.

Carol S.'s avatar

Keep in mind that Trump did not come up with this new approach to scientific research on his own. He may have certain related obsessions - such as a hostility to wind power, or any form of energy except for fossil fuels. But like most of "his" policies, the assault on scientific research comes from the Heritage Foundation and the associated groups that contributed to the reactionary agenda he agreed to promote - in exchange for empowerment, glorification, and unlimited moral indulgence.

Emilio Verdugo's avatar

Oh for sure, Trump is lazy- he likes to subcontract his thinking, I don't think he has the focus to read a page let alone a book. Think Federalist Society and Project 2025 as well.

Joe Weicher's avatar

Evidently the voters wanted Luddites. Mission accomplished.

dlnevins's avatar

That's not fair to the Luddites, who were NOT technophobes or anti-science; they just knew what the hot new technology of their day (mechanical looms) would do to their communities. And they were right! Whole communities were plunged into poverty by the creation of the Satanic Mills of the Industrial Revolution.

The Luddites were the equivalent of today's workers protesting AI.

Sylvia Street's avatar

Can anything be done to halt this dismantling? Will contacting our Senate and House members count for anything?

Christopher Wood's avatar

No!

ReTrumplican'ts will not question the policy of their god-king.

Democrats have little power, especially in the Senate.

NAWeihePhD's avatar

Weather forecasting is a national security issue. I live on the Albemarle Sound in North Carolina (aka the Inner Banks or IBX) and all of us rely on the same advanced hurricane information. Why do the people driving this administration's agenda want to dismantle every aspect of our national security infrastructure? It is an adversarial move, and something an enemy would put in motion. It smacks of criminal intent to me. They are putting blinders on us against our will, and putting us in harms way. The governments of the eastern seaboard states need to pick up the slack immediately, as the federal government is turning on its citizenry. Who is really in charge of these United States?

Sal's avatar

I hear from the folks who study autocracy that the destruction of science isn’t just willful destruction but part of the autocrat’s larger plan to undermine objective truth wherever it can be found, and where it might challenge the narrative the regime is trying to advance.

dlnevins's avatar

The problem, of course, is that the autocrat can suppress it, but he can't make objective truth go away, and that generally results is a terrible castrophe.

Sal's avatar

Yes it does lead there. Question is whether we still have a chance to forestall utter catastrophe in the US and wider world.

DEM's avatar
Jun 12Edited

It's up to elected Democrats to expose the rhetoric of "cost saving" and explain to the American people exactly how their lives are being negatively impacted by Trump administration "cost saving." In an election year, this is a winning issue for Democrats.

Ahoi Mench's avatar

As long as what remains of mainstream media covers it. Fox certainly won’t.