Maybe Noem would still be in the running for Veep if she'd gotten things straight. She should have stared down Cricket and taken Kim Jun Ong to the gravel pit and shot him.
Maybe Noem would still be in the running for Veep if she'd gotten things straight. She should have stared down Cricket and taken Kim Jun Ong to the gravel pit and shot him.
Read the Wiki article titled gravel pit. If they have not filled with water to become swimming holes, they are a good place for shooting as they can keep stray bullets from penetrating the houses nearby. Unless she leased a portion of her farm for sand and gravel extraction, I rather doubt the pit was on her property. BTW, Palmisani Nature Park in Bridgeport, Chicago, has some nice pits filled with water.
Some very fine people said he wrote the BEST letters. And singing have you heard him sing? It's like a perfect little bird. So melodic. And mellow birds. The egret must be the most mellow bird of them all...except for frogs. Did you see that cartoon with the egret trying to swallow a frog, but the frog was choking the egret? It was a beautiful piece of art that I saw in a cubicle once. Did I mention that I drew that picture? Then the Louvre wanted it because the egret and frog were so perfect, but someone said to me, "sir, this should be in cubicles all over the world." But the world hates Joe Biden.
It's funny, a former Republican President said "I loathe him." We're now at "we fell in love" and that guy gets bigger cheers. How are Republicans the tough on national security party?
I agree 100%. Yet, if you ask a random person on the street, they'll most likely give the GOP higher marks for national security. Reality doesn't penetrate their bubble.
The random person doesn't matter, at least not to the outcome in November. For the swing voters in the swing states who care about national security, this is another message the Dems have to get across to them - IF any of them care about national security, that is. I really don't know what they care about. According to one of the pundits I follow, Matthew Yglesias, the winning issues for Biden are abortion access, prescription drug prices and sustaining Medicare.
Well you have to get gravel from somewhere... like, to make roads and stuff. And they're a good place to shoot guns because they're big enough to give you room to maneuver and they stop the bullets so a stray one doesn't God forbid shoot Kim Jong Un in the @ss.
I can understand firing weapons at a gravel pit WITH PERMISSION of the owner. But aren't there laws about burying animals on private property that even farmers/ranchers follow? Can just imagine unloading a bulldozer full of gravel on your driveway (to resurface it) and dumping a dead dog onto your driveway in front of your kids.
There are usually rules/laws but a lot of people ignore them. Pretty much all of our animals were buried on our property through my childhood. We switched to cremation a few years back.
My father, to my knowledge, shot exactly one of our pets. The dog was old (16-17 years old) and had a devastating stroke. He and that dog were VERY close. He loved that dog. He thought it was more fitting/caring/appropriate that he deal with it than some vetinarian.
Totally different situation and motivation from what Noem did.
There is a deeply moving scene in one of Louise PenneyтАЩs novels referencing that kind of event. The locals referred to it as a тАЬbeer walkтАЭ. It always makes me cry.
I thought this entire incident took place on Noem's farm where she would have the right to do many things. I don't think any information has come out about where she buried the dog and the goat.
You're right; I just checked. It was her property. I wonder what she told her kids when they asked where Cricket was. BTW, her story now is that the dog was dangerous to her children and was a "working dog". https://www.newsweek.com/kristi-noem-says-killing-dog-was-her-choice-mom-1897721 She never mentions that she was an irresponsible owner. She had a "working" dog she now claims was uncontrollable, vicious - yet she didn't control the animal, took it with her to a place with chickens, didn't make certain the dog was confined, etc. Sounds like she's the one who had/has problems, not the dog.
Reminds me a wonderful line in the 1998 movie, "The Horse Whisperer". The horse needs healing after a riding accident that traumatized the daughter. The mom says to the horse whisperer, "You help people with horse problems?" He says, "I help horses with people problems" and the rest of the story shows the problems the mom and the daughter have. That line has always stuck with me.
That's pretty much what Cesar Millan says - no problem dogs, but problem owners. Used to watch his show a lot. Our first chihuahua was an aggressive little SOB - he bit for real and without warning. Even after he lost all his teeth, he would still bite. To be blunt, others would have put him down, as nothing could stop that aggression - not training, nothing. But I could handle him, and he was a smart little stinker, and a wonderful traveler. Lost him in 2012 to congestive heart failure - a gasp as I was rubbing his belly, and he was gone. (His picture was my first avatar.) Still miss him.
Now, I'm trying to train my little Nomi (not that little - 11lbs). Whoever had her for 18 mos didn't teach her anything - no commands, no leash training, nothing. We're learning together.
Thank you. Just noticed you were a HS history teacher. The best history teacher I ever had (and I had published history teachers in college - double major History & Pol Sci) was Mr. Paden at Catholic Central HS in Binghamton NY (still there but name has changed slightly). He was passionate about history and his students. He retired only a few years ago after more than 50 years of teaching there. I had him in 1967-68, one of the few people I remember from my personal ancient history.
Agree. But Bernie wasn't tiny, about 8lbs, and big for a chihuahua. His breeder found out after I told her about his aggression that his grandfather in Arizona had a massive aggressive streak that came out in Bernie. The AZ breeder should never have bred the grandfather as Bernie literally bit the hand that fed him for no cause. Tewlee, my current avatar, hated everyone but me (I got him after Bernie and my parents were already dead). At least, he warned everyone first if he wasn't happy and he didn't hurt me. :-) My newbie Nomi a chihuahua something mix seems to love everyone so far. Though she was terrified in that huge cage I saw her in. I sat on the concrete and let her come to me. When she did, I picked her up, held her close and that was it - she was my (18mo) baby from that point. :-)
https://sdlegislature.gov/Statutes/34-16-17 "34-16-17. Failure to dispose of dead animal as petty offense. Whenever the owner and the person in charge of any unburied dead animal shall fail to burn or bury or cause the same to be burned or buried, or otherwise dispose of such body or cause the same to be buried in accordance with laws, rules, and regulations as required by ┬з┬з 34-16-14 to 34-16-16, inclusive, he shall have committed a petty offense for each dead body so left unburned or unburied or otherwise disposed of."
She broke SD law if she left the bodies in the open.
The piece quotes Tom Holland. Who is Tim? The piece was very interesting, and it's related to some issues that I've been thinking about--still in the consultation phase cogitation phase.
Thank Google! A historian's or any other researcher's godsend. It amazes me what I can find without spending literally years in a library researching often esoteric facts. Yeah, there's garbage too. But for straight forward facts, like laws of various states about all kinds of things to the daily weather in 1949 in any state of the Union (and foreign places as well) to how long to drive old non-highway roads in 1955 to how many cow-calf pairs on 10,000 acres using rotational daily grazing to passenger-cargo freighters rooms in 1949 to whatever (almost) my head desires . . . And it's free. Hell, I'd even pay for it, like I do for Newspapers.com for hundreds of towns/cities papers back to almost any year I want.
I think it's kind of like dog training. Some of us can get Google to do tricks and some of us not so much. My current favorite research assistant is Microsoft Copilot located in the upper right-hand corner of Edge. Sometimes you have to ask a question several different ways to get what you're looking for. When I was doing a research project on the early 20th century, I used newspaper.com very frequently.
I fell for newspapers.com when I started researching life in 1949 US for a story I was thinking of. I couldn't believe what I kept finding. There are gaps, but for a slice of life on food prices, house prices, ads, heck, almost anything, it's heaven. Also pinterest has tons of info as well. As for google, I can honestly say I've never been disappointed. Sometimes, okay a lot of times, the sheer volume of info out there leads me to research overload. :-) And I have to consciously tell my brain to stop already!
She's still "editing" the book, maybe the whole thing will be whitewashed. But she seems to be doubling down on how bad the dog "really was" in several recent articles. Now the dog is a "vicious" animal that she let run loose and didn't bother to train or restrain. She's stupid enough not to realize she's the one who's looking inept.
Maybe Noem would still be in the running for Veep if she'd gotten things straight. She should have stared down Cricket and taken Kim Jun Ong to the gravel pit and shot him.
BTW, who the hell has a gravel pit? And why?
Read the Wiki article titled gravel pit. If they have not filled with water to become swimming holes, they are a good place for shooting as they can keep stray bullets from penetrating the houses nearby. Unless she leased a portion of her farm for sand and gravel extraction, I rather doubt the pit was on her property. BTW, Palmisani Nature Park in Bridgeport, Chicago, has some nice pits filled with water.
Thx for the South Side tip. I was born south of Bridgeport. I'm putting it on my to-do list for my next visit to Chicago.
Nah, Donald and Kim have a major bromance. Kim writes beautiful letters. Lots of love there.
Some very fine people said he wrote the BEST letters. And singing have you heard him sing? It's like a perfect little bird. So melodic. And mellow birds. The egret must be the most mellow bird of them all...except for frogs. Did you see that cartoon with the egret trying to swallow a frog, but the frog was choking the egret? It was a beautiful piece of art that I saw in a cubicle once. Did I mention that I drew that picture? Then the Louvre wanted it because the egret and frog were so perfect, but someone said to me, "sir, this should be in cubicles all over the world." But the world hates Joe Biden.
I know this was written by you because of the complete sentences . . .
It's funny, a former Republican President said "I loathe him." We're now at "we fell in love" and that guy gets bigger cheers. How are Republicans the tough on national security party?
The GOP gave up on national security in 2016. It's the Dems who are the neoconservatives now. What a switch that is!
I agree 100%. Yet, if you ask a random person on the street, they'll most likely give the GOP higher marks for national security. Reality doesn't penetrate their bubble.
The random person doesn't matter, at least not to the outcome in November. For the swing voters in the swing states who care about national security, this is another message the Dems have to get across to them - IF any of them care about national security, that is. I really don't know what they care about. According to one of the pundits I follow, Matthew Yglesias, the winning issues for Biden are abortion access, prescription drug prices and sustaining Medicare.
Well you have to get gravel from somewhere... like, to make roads and stuff. And they're a good place to shoot guns because they're big enough to give you room to maneuver and they stop the bullets so a stray one doesn't God forbid shoot Kim Jong Un in the @ss.
I can understand firing weapons at a gravel pit WITH PERMISSION of the owner. But aren't there laws about burying animals on private property that even farmers/ranchers follow? Can just imagine unloading a bulldozer full of gravel on your driveway (to resurface it) and dumping a dead dog onto your driveway in front of your kids.
There are usually rules/laws but a lot of people ignore them. Pretty much all of our animals were buried on our property through my childhood. We switched to cremation a few years back.
My father, to my knowledge, shot exactly one of our pets. The dog was old (16-17 years old) and had a devastating stroke. He and that dog were VERY close. He loved that dog. He thought it was more fitting/caring/appropriate that he deal with it than some vetinarian.
Totally different situation and motivation from what Noem did.
There is a deeply moving scene in one of Louise PenneyтАЩs novels referencing that kind of event. The locals referred to it as a тАЬbeer walkтАЭ. It always makes me cry.
Writing that actually brought tears to my eyes, so ya.
I thought this entire incident took place on Noem's farm where she would have the right to do many things. I don't think any information has come out about where she buried the dog and the goat.
You're right; I just checked. It was her property. I wonder what she told her kids when they asked where Cricket was. BTW, her story now is that the dog was dangerous to her children and was a "working dog". https://www.newsweek.com/kristi-noem-says-killing-dog-was-her-choice-mom-1897721 She never mentions that she was an irresponsible owner. She had a "working" dog she now claims was uncontrollable, vicious - yet she didn't control the animal, took it with her to a place with chickens, didn't make certain the dog was confined, etc. Sounds like she's the one who had/has problems, not the dog.
Reminds me a wonderful line in the 1998 movie, "The Horse Whisperer". The horse needs healing after a riding accident that traumatized the daughter. The mom says to the horse whisperer, "You help people with horse problems?" He says, "I help horses with people problems" and the rest of the story shows the problems the mom and the daughter have. That line has always stuck with me.
That's pretty much what Cesar Millan says - no problem dogs, but problem owners. Used to watch his show a lot. Our first chihuahua was an aggressive little SOB - he bit for real and without warning. Even after he lost all his teeth, he would still bite. To be blunt, others would have put him down, as nothing could stop that aggression - not training, nothing. But I could handle him, and he was a smart little stinker, and a wonderful traveler. Lost him in 2012 to congestive heart failure - a gasp as I was rubbing his belly, and he was gone. (His picture was my first avatar.) Still miss him.
Now, I'm trying to train my little Nomi (not that little - 11lbs). Whoever had her for 18 mos didn't teach her anything - no commands, no leash training, nothing. We're learning together.
Bless you, Eva! And your little Nomi too.
Thank you. Just noticed you were a HS history teacher. The best history teacher I ever had (and I had published history teachers in college - double major History & Pol Sci) was Mr. Paden at Catholic Central HS in Binghamton NY (still there but name has changed slightly). He was passionate about history and his students. He retired only a few years ago after more than 50 years of teaching there. I had him in 1967-68, one of the few people I remember from my personal ancient history.
Sometimes tiny dogs are aggressive because they know they're tiny and everyone else is huge.
Agree. But Bernie wasn't tiny, about 8lbs, and big for a chihuahua. His breeder found out after I told her about his aggression that his grandfather in Arizona had a massive aggressive streak that came out in Bernie. The AZ breeder should never have bred the grandfather as Bernie literally bit the hand that fed him for no cause. Tewlee, my current avatar, hated everyone but me (I got him after Bernie and my parents were already dead). At least, he warned everyone first if he wasn't happy and he didn't hurt me. :-) My newbie Nomi a chihuahua something mix seems to love everyone so far. Though she was terrified in that huge cage I saw her in. I sat on the concrete and let her come to me. When she did, I picked her up, held her close and that was it - she was my (18mo) baby from that point. :-)
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Aww. I love dogs. Even the mean ones.
Maybe she left them in the pit to rot and be eaten by scavengers.
https://sdlegislature.gov/Statutes/34-16-17 "34-16-17. Failure to dispose of dead animal as petty offense. Whenever the owner and the person in charge of any unburied dead animal shall fail to burn or bury or cause the same to be burned or buried, or otherwise dispose of such body or cause the same to be buried in accordance with laws, rules, and regulations as required by ┬з┬з 34-16-14 to 34-16-16, inclusive, he shall have committed a petty offense for each dead body so left unburned or unburied or otherwise disposed of."
She broke SD law if she left the bodies in the open.
Eva, you sure have some research skills!
BTW, given your background, you might find the following interesting: https://markpshea.com/2024/05/07/its-not-christians-vs-secularists/#respond
I have clicked on it, and I will definitely read it. Thanks for the recommendation.
And he's quoting Tim! Which I didn't notice at first. LOL.
The piece quotes Tom Holland. Who is Tim? The piece was very interesting, and it's related to some issues that I've been thinking about--still in the consultation phase cogitation phase.
Mark wasn't always a Catholic, so he's got quite an extensive background.
Thank Google! A historian's or any other researcher's godsend. It amazes me what I can find without spending literally years in a library researching often esoteric facts. Yeah, there's garbage too. But for straight forward facts, like laws of various states about all kinds of things to the daily weather in 1949 in any state of the Union (and foreign places as well) to how long to drive old non-highway roads in 1955 to how many cow-calf pairs on 10,000 acres using rotational daily grazing to passenger-cargo freighters rooms in 1949 to whatever (almost) my head desires . . . And it's free. Hell, I'd even pay for it, like I do for Newspapers.com for hundreds of towns/cities papers back to almost any year I want.
I think it's kind of like dog training. Some of us can get Google to do tricks and some of us not so much. My current favorite research assistant is Microsoft Copilot located in the upper right-hand corner of Edge. Sometimes you have to ask a question several different ways to get what you're looking for. When I was doing a research project on the early 20th century, I used newspaper.com very frequently.
I fell for newspapers.com when I started researching life in 1949 US for a story I was thinking of. I couldn't believe what I kept finding. There are gaps, but for a slice of life on food prices, house prices, ads, heck, almost anything, it's heaven. Also pinterest has tons of info as well. As for google, I can honestly say I've never been disappointed. Sometimes, okay a lot of times, the sheer volume of info out there leads me to research overload. :-) And I have to consciously tell my brain to stop already!
I don't know if she did or not. It just seems in character.
She's still "editing" the book, maybe the whole thing will be whitewashed. But she seems to be doubling down on how bad the dog "really was" in several recent articles. Now the dog is a "vicious" animal that she let run loose and didn't bother to train or restrain. She's stupid enough not to realize she's the one who's looking inept.
You could be right. That would be a country way to handle it.