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Amanda's avatar

Vance last night was like the guy who beats up his wife and then when the police come to the door he's all sweet reason and gosh officers whatever you need to set your minds at rest.

People will buy it. At least, I know people who will buy it. With any luck they will also forget about it pretty quickly. Harris and Walz both could help *make* that luck by doing more interviews and just making themselves available across more different channels.

It happened and it's real. The way you show confidence in and respect for people (including yourself) is by acknowledging their flaws. Everybody has flaws; denying them just makes them seem worse than they are. Walz knew he sucked at debating and I think we can safely respect his judgment on that. Now he can get on with doing the things he's good at.

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Walz's only standout moment was "damning non-answer"

JD Vance on the other hand

-conceeded that the current abortion laws killed women and "ruined lives", and then recomitted to the state by state policy

-repeatedly taked about his mother's addiction totally unprompted

-explained to America that Ohio "gets pretty cold in winter" in his CLOSING statement

-repeatedly referred to the moderators by their first name's in a way reminiscent of an 16 year old who just read "How to Win Friends and Influence People"

-had no actual accomplishements to tout

-repeatedly dodged questions, even when the questions were expllicitily redirected to him by Walz or the moderators

JD Vance did not have a good debate. To paraphrase Tolkien, he looked fairer, but felt fouler.

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