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J. Andres Hannah-Suarez's avatar

Re: American Exceptionalism

As someone born in Mexico, who now lives in Canada, I'm intimately familar with the U.S. ethos of superiority and the historical record of Americans working to fullfil their "manifest destiny".

So when I hear the term "American Exceptionalism" that translates into an American belief that that due to the inherent superiority of the U.S. (of which there is little objective data to support the claim) means that the U.S. is excempt from from the rules that apply to ordinary countries. It's an excuse to do things like:

1) Initiating unilateral attacks against countries like Iran, who DARE to try to develop nuclear weapons, which is a balsy hypocritical move from the only country in the world that has ever deployed nuclear weapons on a civilian population.

2) Invading Iraq based on information that the Bush administration knew to be false.

3) Shipping people to black sites or Guantanamo Bay and literally torturing them, never charging a single person for the torture once discovered.

4) Holding itself out to be a paragon o f civil liberties and due process, while at the same time detaining 32 suspects without charges for over 20 years, with the exception of two suspects who were found guilty by a "military tribunal" that is in no way recognized by international law.

The fact that 95% of Americans have no issue with the above, yet also reflectively belleve that the U.S. is the "best country in the world" is what "American Exceptionalism" seems to refer to.

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Al Brown's avatar

Did you bother to listen to the podcast, or was this just a convenient opportunity to vent your anti-Americanism? I hope you feel better now.

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J. Andres Hannah-Suarez's avatar

Well that was a weirdly aggressive response. I'm a Bulwark + subscriber, and I listen to every single weekly podcast, with the exception of Mona Charen's work.

What on earth makes you think from my comment that I didn't listen to the episode? The monday Will Saletan & Charlie Sykes podcast is the highlight of my week.

What is revealing in your response is that you didn't actually bother to engage with any of the arguments. That's very Trumpian of you, ignore valid criticisms and just declare that the points I've made are just borne out of anti-Americanism.

Sir, can you point to a single FACTUAL error that I made in my comment? Or are you just upset that my comments interfered with your masturbatory 'merican 'jingoism?

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Al Brown's avatar

Hmmmm. Not quite yet, apparently. I hope that this latest eruption helped. It's better to vent on hated "others" online than to kick the dog. Unfortunately, though, that much pent-up hostility and vulgarity too often finds several outlets. Poor Fido!

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J. Andres Hannah-Suarez's avatar

Oooo sweetie, I didn't know you have basic literacy issues.

I mean, that's the only explanation for your continued inability to address the substance of my original comment.

Buddy, this is getting pathetic at this point. I know your right-wing mind has difficulties processing *GASP* logical arguments.

To quote Abe:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt".

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Al Brown's avatar

I'm not sure about "pathetic", but this clearly is going nowhere. Your original screed could have been quoted from any regime website from Beijing to Moscow to Caracas so there's no "substance" there to answer, but you knew that already.

May the courage of JuĂ¡rez, the idealism of Madero, and the understanding of human nature of Porfirio serve you well in your chosen homeland. Thank you for choosing Canada.

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J. Andres Hannah-Suarez's avatar

Oh sweatheart, I see you're still having issues with literacy, either that or you think that ad hominem attacks are a valid from of discourse.

So to confirm:

1) You have no substantive issue with the content of my original comment.

2) You're too proud to admit that you've been outsmarted.

Sweetie, this is getting a little pathological on top of pathetic.

Dude, just walk away ....

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Al Brown's avatar

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