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I'm not grateful. I'm mad as hell. Dems keep encouraging the "REPUGNANTS" to be more repugnant in the future by agreeing to negotiate. If you negotiate with terrorists, it only encourages more terrorism in the future because they will point at the last time they got things they wanted by committing economic terrorism. Do you get what "setting a precedent" means?

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So just roll over and take it is the preferred outcome? What does that solve long term?

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One party is lobbing hand grenades while the other party cowers in fear at the thought of hand grenades going off. Know what that encourages? More hand grenade throwing in the future. If a grenade goes off now and the GOP owns it, know what that does? It discourages future hand grenade throwing once the damage of a grenade going off is seen by all. Then all of a sudden it's not so cool to hold debt ceilings hostage anymore because there's an economic body count in the historical record associated with doing that sort of thing.

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I get what youтАЩre saying Travis but in the game of chicken involving 2 drivers heading towards each other, and neither car avoids the head on collision at 100mph, youтАЩre likely to have everybody in both cars dead. Sure, I agree this should not be happening, but the chicken game needs to be be banned (ie. made impossible to play) at a time when we donтАЩt have the two cars barrelling towards each other. And yeh I know thatтАЩll be hard to do (filibuster etc.) but maybe the 14th amendment solution could be litigated after a deal to help avoid future chicken games. Or else weтАЩll have to wait to vote in enough reasonable congresspersons sometime in the future. But all parties being dead from the game is not a good result.

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