We talk a lot about how unfit Donald Trump was for the Presidency, but not nearly enough attention is paid to how unfit Mike Pence is for the Vice Presidency. I cannot fathom being Mike Pence and remaining all but silent in the face of everything Trump has done, to the country and to him personally. If I were Pence I'd have a one cot at FBI headquarters and another in the 1/6 Committee room.
We talk a lot about how unfit Donald Trump was for the Presidency, but not nearly enough attention is paid to how unfit Mike Pence is for the Vice Presidency. I cannot fathom being Mike Pence and remaining all but silent in the face of everything Trump has done, to the country and to him personally. If I were Pence I'd have a one cot at FBI headquarters and another in the 1/6 Committee room.
Not sure what you mean by Pence being unfit for VP. Our paths crossed for one year in college and then again in law school where I got to know him a lot better. (I was editor of the law school paper, while Pence was the cartoonist.) I had a number of conversations with him about the political issue of the day. Contrary to the image presented as VP, Pence came across as smart, well-informed, and extremely personable. In law school, he was quite popular, even with liberals. When he got into politics, he eventually put aside the warm, thoughtful Mike Pence and started doing whatever he thought he needed to do to get ahead. That included signing on as Donald Trump's VP. Clearly, Mike Pence has sold out his soul to the devil to try to get him ahead in politics. And he's compounded his sins by going along until 1/6 with everything Trump wanted. Outside of selling out his soul (which seems kind of important), I certainly wouldn't call Pence unqualified. He's a 1000 times more qualified than Donald Trump.
"Selling out his soul" means he did not defend the US Constitution against a domestic enemy. This disqualifies him for any federal office, let alone that of the Vice President. Any fancy lawyerin' and book-larnin' he may have done is irrelevant.
Oh, he is definitely 1000 times more qualified than Donald Trump. But that measure alone doesn't get him anywhere near being qualified to be president.
Right, but the "selling out your soul" part matters quite a lot when the chips are down, wouldn't you say? You can be a pretty capable political operator, but if the day calls for something else and you come up drastically short, the political operator part does not matter. At least not to the history books.
I agree totally....though I would point out that Pence has a lot of company when it comes to Republicans who sold out their souls during the Trump era. It would be easier to make a list of those Republicans who refused to sell out.
I also think it's fair to point out that your memories of Pence are definitely not representative of who Pence is now, or more accurately, who Pence has chosen to become.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions, and so on. I am sure Pence thought he could be the sane man in the room, but he seems to have failed in every regard except to certify the election.
Pence sold his soul when he agreed to be Trump's running mate. What did he get for this transaction? He is loathed on the right as a coward for not participating in the "Stop the Steal" coup. In the reality based world, he is loathed as a coward for not telling the truth to the country. Well done, Mike!
ItтАЩs appalling weakness. We thought this type of behavior was limited to France (Vichy), Germany (Nazi and Stasi collaborators), and Stalinist states. To China and Cambodia. Where good people became infected with it. But we see these people right now. The ones who would sign the papers to put us on the trains to the camps. The Grahams and McCarthys, the Pences and Stefaniks.
We talk a lot about how unfit Donald Trump was for the Presidency, but not nearly enough attention is paid to how unfit Mike Pence is for the Vice Presidency. I cannot fathom being Mike Pence and remaining all but silent in the face of everything Trump has done, to the country and to him personally. If I were Pence I'd have a one cot at FBI headquarters and another in the 1/6 Committee room.
Not sure what you mean by Pence being unfit for VP. Our paths crossed for one year in college and then again in law school where I got to know him a lot better. (I was editor of the law school paper, while Pence was the cartoonist.) I had a number of conversations with him about the political issue of the day. Contrary to the image presented as VP, Pence came across as smart, well-informed, and extremely personable. In law school, he was quite popular, even with liberals. When he got into politics, he eventually put aside the warm, thoughtful Mike Pence and started doing whatever he thought he needed to do to get ahead. That included signing on as Donald Trump's VP. Clearly, Mike Pence has sold out his soul to the devil to try to get him ahead in politics. And he's compounded his sins by going along until 1/6 with everything Trump wanted. Outside of selling out his soul (which seems kind of important), I certainly wouldn't call Pence unqualified. He's a 1000 times more qualified than Donald Trump.
"Selling out his soul" means he did not defend the US Constitution against a domestic enemy. This disqualifies him for any federal office, let alone that of the Vice President. Any fancy lawyerin' and book-larnin' he may have done is irrelevant.
"Outside of selling out his soul (which seems kind of important), I certainly wouldn't call Pence unqualified."
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
Oh, he is definitely 1000 times more qualified than Donald Trump. But that measure alone doesn't get him anywhere near being qualified to be president.
Right, but the "selling out your soul" part matters quite a lot when the chips are down, wouldn't you say? You can be a pretty capable political operator, but if the day calls for something else and you come up drastically short, the political operator part does not matter. At least not to the history books.
I agree totally....though I would point out that Pence has a lot of company when it comes to Republicans who sold out their souls during the Trump era. It would be easier to make a list of those Republicans who refused to sell out.
Yes, which is also a huge problem.
I also think it's fair to point out that your memories of Pence are definitely not representative of who Pence is now, or more accurately, who Pence has chosen to become.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions, and so on. I am sure Pence thought he could be the sane man in the room, but he seems to have failed in every regard except to certify the election.
Pence sold his soul when he agreed to be Trump's running mate. What did he get for this transaction? He is loathed on the right as a coward for not participating in the "Stop the Steal" coup. In the reality based world, he is loathed as a coward for not telling the truth to the country. Well done, Mike!
ItтАЩs appalling weakness. We thought this type of behavior was limited to France (Vichy), Germany (Nazi and Stasi collaborators), and Stalinist states. To China and Cambodia. Where good people became infected with it. But we see these people right now. The ones who would sign the papers to put us on the trains to the camps. The Grahams and McCarthys, the Pences and Stefaniks.