You are talking about MAGA. There are plenty of Republicans and liberal (not progressive) Democrats, as well as former Republicans and Democrats, who are attempting to defend the values of Western civilization undermined by both parties.
You are talking about MAGA. There are plenty of Republicans and liberal (not progressive) Democrats, as well as former Republicans and Democrats, who are attempting to defend the values of Western civilization undermined by both parties.
You wrote: ". . . defend the values of Western civilization undermined by both parties." Well, both parties except for the Democrats. Perhaps you meant the Republicans and the Libertarians.
Anyway, the Democrats are not undermining anything. I doubt they are capable of it. It would take concerted action and organization, and as Will Rogers said: "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
Unfortunately from what I see on FoxNews there are a lot of R's that deserve the following slogan: "I'm not MAGA...I just hang out with them"
Most of them simply will not call out their "brethren" no matter how disgusting, crazy or factually wrong their post is. They are convinced that the Dems are far more the real problem with the US.
For what it's worth, I registered Independent after voting Republican for many years. I talk about the dangers of Trump and, of course, have been accused of TDS and dismissed many times. You are correct - we need intellectual honesty, but we need it on both sides. If reasonable Dems aren't willing to call out repressive environments on college campuses, the ridiculousness of "defund the police" movement and the curbing of parental rights with respect to their children's gender identity issues, they can't come down hard on GOP not pushing back on MAGA.
There are plenty of Democrats who do voice support for exactly those positions but the media is only interested in controversy so defending moderate positions gets very little attention.
And there are a lot of people who are not MAGA who will still vote for this crap because.... R is beside someone's name. People who aren't willing to do anything themselves and MIGHT be against something... but not enough to be against it (openly) until it is too late because it is already happening or happened--or are willing to selectively believe the BS because of some one thing in there that they like.
Sure I voted for the face-eating leopard--I didn't believe he would actually eat MY face and I wanted a tax cut.
You are talking about MAGA. There are plenty of Republicans and liberal (not progressive) Democrats, as well as former Republicans and Democrats, who are attempting to defend the values of Western civilization undermined by both parties.
You wrote: ". . . defend the values of Western civilization undermined by both parties." Well, both parties except for the Democrats. Perhaps you meant the Republicans and the Libertarians.
Anyway, the Democrats are not undermining anything. I doubt they are capable of it. It would take concerted action and organization, and as Will Rogers said: "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
Unfortunately from what I see on FoxNews there are a lot of R's that deserve the following slogan: "I'm not MAGA...I just hang out with them"
Most of them simply will not call out their "brethren" no matter how disgusting, crazy or factually wrong their post is. They are convinced that the Dems are far more the real problem with the US.
For what it's worth, I registered Independent after voting Republican for many years. I talk about the dangers of Trump and, of course, have been accused of TDS and dismissed many times. You are correct - we need intellectual honesty, but we need it on both sides. If reasonable Dems aren't willing to call out repressive environments on college campuses, the ridiculousness of "defund the police" movement and the curbing of parental rights with respect to their children's gender identity issues, they can't come down hard on GOP not pushing back on MAGA.
There are plenty of Democrats who do voice support for exactly those positions but the media is only interested in controversy so defending moderate positions gets very little attention.
100% agree, but the problem on the GOP side is a Code Blue at the moment and the Dems aren't anywhere near that these days.
And there are a lot of people who are not MAGA who will still vote for this crap because.... R is beside someone's name. People who aren't willing to do anything themselves and MIGHT be against something... but not enough to be against it (openly) until it is too late because it is already happening or happened--or are willing to selectively believe the BS because of some one thing in there that they like.
Sure I voted for the face-eating leopard--I didn't believe he would actually eat MY face and I wanted a tax cut.