I think Diet Mountain Dew, or DMD, is a wonderful nickname for Vance. It's not mean or profane like FJB or Let's Go Brandon but really captures the spirit of the man. He's like Appalachia but healthier, with just a splash of Yale.
I think Diet Mountain Dew, or DMD, is a wonderful nickname for Vance. It's not mean or profane like FJB or Let's Go Brandon but really captures the spirit of the man. He's like Appalachia but healthier, with just a splash of Yale.
Not just that, but he is angry that he didn't have what he perceived others at Yale had. A fish out of water angry that comes from knowing he has brain power like them but is missing some of the polish that he believes makes them look down on him.
I think you may have put your finger on what made him angry -- and it is of course based in the fact that he is very very bright but wasn't born to wealth. He needs to get over himself. And he will never be able to explain his 180 degree flip flop (I do wonder how his wife remains with him).
I remember that part тАФ the formal meal where he knew nothing about the utensil placement and had no clue. So much anger neglecting the fact that most kids at any Ivy wouldnтАЩt have known what to do either.
The HB branch of his family was his entire family. He had absolutely no role models in his family to follow to get where he is today. I donтАЩt like him, but he actually is a self-made man.
There is no such thing. Sorry. He would not have made it out of Ohio without his grandparents, for instance. Flawed as they were, his family if not his community helped propel him to success.
Half of my family is from rural West Virginia, and he would stick out like a sore thumb there. I see little to nothing in him that makes him appear to be anything more than a disingenuous opportunist, playing the card when it helps him attain something but gladly distancing himself from it when it does not.
My parents were from Nebraska but moved to California. I was born and raised in Los Angeles, but we occasionally visited their relatives in Nebraska. By VanceтАЩs lights, that makes me a Nebraskan.
I hate being fair to JD of all people, but we don't draw such distinctions on various hyphenated Americans. If a person is born of Greek parents who move to America and lived around other Greeks and occasionally visited family in Greece, we wouldn't think it odd that they'd identify strongly with Greek heritage.
I grew up in a neighborhood that was mixed, Italian, Irish, Polish, German, Greek, etc. Many Families were the generation that immigrated, 1st, 2nd, & 3rd generation in the same household. So yeah, I can understand your point exactly. Me, being of Italian and Irish decent, when the Irish guys and the Italian guys got into a fight, I'd go easy on myself! One of the best parts of growing up there, was that there was always an open invitation to stay for dinner. Got to enjoy authentic Polish, German, Italian, Greek, and Irish food. What a wonderful place to grow up. Sadly with gentrification, that neighborhood no longer exists.
It isn't that far, and how far is Chinatown in any American city from China?
There was quite a migration from Appalachia north years and years ago. The guy's roots are in the hoots and hollars, and so what? Now if he wants to exploit that and profit from it, it is up to the others who identify that way to decide how they feel about it, but I'm in no position to say that he isn't a hillbilly.
What I can definitively say is that he seems to be a rank opportunist willing to say one thing one day and the opposite the next to serve his ambition. However, I won't hold that against all hillbillies.
Vance is in no way from or like Appalachia; he spent his book spitting on them; he is just another selfish elitist frat boy from silicon valley -- an empty suit.
I think Diet Mountain Dew, or DMD, is a wonderful nickname for Vance. It's not mean or profane like FJB or Let's Go Brandon but really captures the spirit of the man. He's like Appalachia but healthier, with just a splash of Yale.
IтАЩm getting the impression from ppl living in Appalachia that heтАЩs *nothing* like Appalachia.
It looks to me that he spent his childhood being embarrassed by the HB branch of the family.
Then he figured out he could make money off it.
Not just that, but he is angry that he didn't have what he perceived others at Yale had. A fish out of water angry that comes from knowing he has brain power like them but is missing some of the polish that he believes makes them look down on him.
I think you may have put your finger on what made him angry -- and it is of course based in the fact that he is very very bright but wasn't born to wealth. He needs to get over himself. And he will never be able to explain his 180 degree flip flop (I do wonder how his wife remains with him).
I remember that part тАФ the formal meal where he knew nothing about the utensil placement and had no clue. So much anger neglecting the fact that most kids at any Ivy wouldnтАЩt have known what to do either.
The HB branch of his family was his entire family. He had absolutely no role models in his family to follow to get where he is today. I donтАЩt like him, but he actually is a self-made man.
I'd go so far as to say he's a self-made Yale-educated lawyer. What he is today is largely thanks to Peter Thiel.
There is no such thing. Sorry. He would not have made it out of Ohio without his grandparents, for instance. Flawed as they were, his family if not his community helped propel him to success.
As Andy Bashear very eloquently said, JD Vance "ain't from here."
JD Vance is an emotionally-damaged suburbanite.
I grew up in Western PA and had relatives in West Virginia, Vance is not that Appalachian, Like the splash of Yale bit ;)
Half of my family is from rural West Virginia, and he would stick out like a sore thumb there. I see little to nothing in him that makes him appear to be anything more than a disingenuous opportunist, playing the card when it helps him attain something but gladly distancing himself from it when it does not.
And he learned it from Trumpster.
exactly
empty suit
My parents were from Nebraska but moved to California. I was born and raised in Los Angeles, but we occasionally visited their relatives in Nebraska. By VanceтАЩs lights, that makes me a Nebraskan.
I hate being fair to JD of all people, but we don't draw such distinctions on various hyphenated Americans. If a person is born of Greek parents who move to America and lived around other Greeks and occasionally visited family in Greece, we wouldn't think it odd that they'd identify strongly with Greek heritage.
I grew up in a neighborhood that was mixed, Italian, Irish, Polish, German, Greek, etc. Many Families were the generation that immigrated, 1st, 2nd, & 3rd generation in the same household. So yeah, I can understand your point exactly. Me, being of Italian and Irish decent, when the Irish guys and the Italian guys got into a fight, I'd go easy on myself! One of the best parts of growing up there, was that there was always an open invitation to stay for dinner. Got to enjoy authentic Polish, German, Italian, Greek, and Irish food. What a wonderful place to grow up. Sadly with gentrification, that neighborhood no longer exists.
But Vance grew up in Middletown, Ohio, a steel town north of Cincinnati, that is nowhere near Appalachia.
It isn't that far, and how far is Chinatown in any American city from China?
There was quite a migration from Appalachia north years and years ago. The guy's roots are in the hoots and hollars, and so what? Now if he wants to exploit that and profit from it, it is up to the others who identify that way to decide how they feel about it, but I'm in no position to say that he isn't a hillbilly.
What I can definitively say is that he seems to be a rank opportunist willing to say one thing one day and the opposite the next to serve his ambition. However, I won't hold that against all hillbillies.
Hillbillies are a lot of things. Phony isn't one of them. He's a phony. Ashamed of his roots. Sad. Also unattractive.
"Cornhusker Elegy"??
love the 'with just a splash of Yale!'
Or you might say that there is an element of the oxymoronic in *diet" Mountain Dew--and in a Yale educated hillbilly from Ohio.
I despise Vance, but I LOVE diet Mountain Dew!
I'm gonna do you a solid - the faux hillbilly is more like the store-brand knock-offs. Almost there but not quite.
Zero Sugar Holler Sweat.
Maybe Vance does the Dew to get all that caffeine. Anybody listening to him certainly need it to stay awake.
To be honest, I didn't know that any such thing existed until this morning. How is it as a mixer?
Not being very fussy, I think it works with gin for sure
Everything works with gin! :)
Gin is my favorite vodka.
Richard: I'm the product of a mixed Irish-Italian marriage as well. Do you know what some call us? "McGinny."
Vance is in no way from or like Appalachia; he spent his book spitting on them; he is just another selfish elitist frat boy from silicon valley -- an empty suit.
Waiting for Seven Mountain Dew.