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Phillip Murphy's avatar

What the hell are you taking about? Literally, what the hell are you talking about? Biden was more pro- free trade than Trump. The problem with your "supply side" argument is that the pandemic nuked the supply chain. Even with that, though, Biden used defense spending to get supplies moving from shipyards and factories to retailers. Much of Biden's stimulus was B-to-B. And the family tax credits was money that went directly into family spending.

Look, the economy under Biden was objectively good The inflation wasn't the result of the stimulus. It was the result of a pandemic. Things like that happen, and when they do, it's expensive. The stock market was way up; people were taking vacations at record rates; he addressed inflation better than just about every other First World country.

And for all of your comparisons to Clinton, Bill wasn't able to "smooth the landing" during the 2000 dot com bust. Biden achieved the unicorn– the smooth landing that many economists thought wasn't possible.

On places like Oregon and California, they have their problems, but you and I both would prefer living in either state to living in Mississippi or Alabama.

In all seriousness, the problem wasn't the economy. It wasn't Biden's age. Or Kamala's comments on trans people. Americans voted for Trump b/c they find politics boring. They found Biden boring. They wanted reality TV instead of actual reality.

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Michael's avatar

I am not comparing Biden to Trump. I am comparing Biden to Bill Clinton on trade (and other issues). Biden was terrbile on trade and spending.

The American Rescuse Plan was a mistake. Just ask Larry Summers who predicted it.

Noah Smith:

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/how-americans-can-cease-being-rich

From David Frum just today in The Atlantic.

https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/05/david-frum-show-trumps-national-security-disaster/682868/

And indeed, if President Trump was the most protectionist president since World War II, President Biden was the second-most. Biden did not repeal very many of the Trump tariffs that were imposed in the first Trump term, and he didn’t reopen the Trans-Pacific Partnership that was the real answer to the problem of how we integrate China peacefully into the world trading system.

Biden, in many ways, was quite continuous with Trump on trade, and he was because there are people in the Democratic Party who wanted to be

As the Grateful Dead sings: you ain't gonna learn what do you don't want to know

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