I like Joe Manchin. A lot. He's not wrong about the filibuster. It's the one thing in Washington, DC that forces bipartisanship. And why in the world do the Democrats want to get rid of it when they are almost certainly going to be the minority party in the Senate come 2025 and maybe for several elections moving forward? Think about it. …
I like Joe Manchin. A lot. He's not wrong about the filibuster. It's the one thing in Washington, DC that forces bipartisanship. And why in the world do the Democrats want to get rid of it when they are almost certainly going to be the minority party in the Senate come 2025 and maybe for several elections moving forward? Think about it. The one thing Trump and Harris agree on is getting rid of the filibuster. The filibuster saved the Democrats when the Republicans had a majority in the Senate and House after Trump won in 2016.
Harris proposed an exception to the filibuster for reproductive rights legislation, not getting rid of it altogether. There are already exceptions, including the one that allowed Trump's 3 Supreme Court nominees to be approved so that they could gut said reproductive rights. So there'd be a teeny bit of filibuster karma if this happened.
Actually I agree with Manchin on most issues. But I really get tired of his same old act he espouses with he comes off as a middle go between between Democrats and Trump. Someone should tell him; Joe, you voted with Biden 89% of the time. It is not a close call! I have always gone back and forth about the filibuster. The one thing it prevents is accountability. One can always hide behind it to avoid big issues votes.(Mitch McConnell) Look at it this way, if there wasn't a filibuster ( up and down 50/50 in the senate) and in case of an unpopular issue, it makes it easier for voters in the next election. (accountability)
Because the filibuster is abused by contrarians trying on purpose to grind the Congress to a halt. "the 110th Senate (2007–2009) passed a record-low 2.8 percent of bills introduced, a 66 percent decrease from 2005–2006 and a 90 percent decrease from 1955–1956. "
I read she wants to drop it for voting rights and reproductive rights only . I like Joe as well despite his ego.
I'm not clear on why Harris comments angers so much: Senators can ignore her even as a new party leader. It's a smart play for her to keep progressive happy in a generally centrist platform.
I like Joe Manchin. A lot. He's not wrong about the filibuster. It's the one thing in Washington, DC that forces bipartisanship. And why in the world do the Democrats want to get rid of it when they are almost certainly going to be the minority party in the Senate come 2025 and maybe for several elections moving forward? Think about it. The one thing Trump and Harris agree on is getting rid of the filibuster. The filibuster saved the Democrats when the Republicans had a majority in the Senate and House after Trump won in 2016.
Harris proposed an exception to the filibuster for reproductive rights legislation, not getting rid of it altogether. There are already exceptions, including the one that allowed Trump's 3 Supreme Court nominees to be approved so that they could gut said reproductive rights. So there'd be a teeny bit of filibuster karma if this happened.
What did it save Democrats from? What legislative priority did Republicans miss out on by the existence of the filibuster?
Maybe the filinuster used to foster bipartisanship (I have my doubts) but it's pretty laughable to think it continues to foster bipartisanship today.
What bill in the last couple of Congresses has been passed after the filibuster worked its bipartisan magic?
Actually I agree with Manchin on most issues. But I really get tired of his same old act he espouses with he comes off as a middle go between between Democrats and Trump. Someone should tell him; Joe, you voted with Biden 89% of the time. It is not a close call! I have always gone back and forth about the filibuster. The one thing it prevents is accountability. One can always hide behind it to avoid big issues votes.(Mitch McConnell) Look at it this way, if there wasn't a filibuster ( up and down 50/50 in the senate) and in case of an unpopular issue, it makes it easier for voters in the next election. (accountability)
Well said, Dave: "The one thing it prevents is accountability."
Thanks! Manchin got my dander up with his continued sanctimoniousness.
Because the filibuster is abused by contrarians trying on purpose to grind the Congress to a halt. "the 110th Senate (2007–2009) passed a record-low 2.8 percent of bills introduced, a 66 percent decrease from 2005–2006 and a 90 percent decrease from 1955–1956. "
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/case-against-filibuster
I read she wants to drop it for voting rights and reproductive rights only . I like Joe as well despite his ego.
I'm not clear on why Harris comments angers so much: Senators can ignore her even as a new party leader. It's a smart play for her to keep progressive happy in a generally centrist platform.
Harris wants a filibuster carve out only for restoring abortion rights. I fully expect a trump senate will completely end the filibuster.