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Mike Lew's avatar

That first Wonder Wonder movie was one of the best superhero movies ever!

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Maggie's avatar

I'm not embarrassed to say: I thought it was a better WWI movie than the latest adaptation of All Quiet on The Western Front. Chris Pine's final moment's immediately made me think back to the book: "his face had an expression of calm, as though almost glad the end had come." Absolutely Brutal.

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Mike Lew's avatar

Watching Diana's opinion of her fellow travelers change when she saw them helping the Belgian villagers was so good. A lesser movie would have skipped that sort of character development.

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Mike Lew's avatar

I thought the recent version of Alls Quiet was a great Great War movie. (Sorry, couldn't resist that phrasing. :)) However, it wasn't Alls Quiet. Too many key scenes from the book (or the amazing 1930 version) were missing. I liked it movie, but it wasn't Alls Quiet.

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Maggie's avatar

Yeah, my husband really liked it and I was just like "this isn't the book, this isn't what the book is about"

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knowltok's avatar

Which calls to mind Starship Troopers, which I think someone (you perhaps?) referenced yesterday.

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R Mercer's avatar

Starship Troopers was SO far way from the book I would have been embarrassed to claim I based it on the book if I was the writer.

It had it's moments though, despite the cheesiness.

And I always thought that the Forever War (Joe Haldeman) was a better book.

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knowltok's avatar

I really enjoyed both of them.

I think Heinlein would have been disappointed that the movie portrayed the government he envisioned as fascist. Seemed to me that he took great pains in the book to make sure it wasn't a fascist government, or even a military government.

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R Mercer's avatar

I both wish that it had been made and yet am somewhat afraid of it being made, lol.

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knowltok's avatar

Can you imagine the uproar today if you included the part about the changing sexual mores through the centuries?

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R Mercer's avatar

Or the fact that humanity ends up a bunch of clones and more like the Taurans than the humanity of the past?

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BlueOntario's avatar

Agree, yes. Until Ludendorff turns into a monster. That didn't happen until the 20s, after the war.

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Mike Lew's avatar

Using such a prominent historical figure was risky. A loose analog with a similar name would have worked better.

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BlueOntario's avatar

Ludendorff at an early stage played footsie with the Nazis and paralleled them in some ways, although as a Nationalist. He was abhorrently antisemitic, and Gadot taking him down has some important figurative justice. But, his leadership during war was historically more significant than what he did afterwards. Politically, he was needed to appease Hindenburg while the old man lived, and even though a rival, he wasn't offed by the Nazis for "reasons" (mostly to not alienate Nationalist veterans). He's an optional lecture slide on how that Nazis came to power.

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Mike Lew's avatar

I appreciate the additional historical context, but it just strengthens my opinion that Ludendorf didn't belong in a superhero movie. :)

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